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  1. RossoCorsaItaly

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    #1 RossoCorsaItaly, May 23, 2005
    Regarding to this thread http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42376&page=1&pp=20

    I see some people are interested in turbo kits for Ferrari's if they are reasonably priced. At $30k+ it's something most of us can't afford. Personally I would never turbocharge a naturally aspirated Ferrari of my own but if that's your cup of tea I'm more then happy to help out. Just checking to see what the demand is for turbo kits in the price range of $10-15k with everything needed to install. They would come with a warranty and we've made close to 100 turbo kits in the past and we have not had one report of cracking or problems with any of our kits to date.

    Put in your $0.02 GOOD OR BAD!

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  2. sparta49

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    #2 sparta49, May 23, 2005
    I'd be interested in a 348 version
     
  3. RossoCorsaItaly

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    #3 RossoCorsaItaly, May 23, 2005
    Thanks,

    Trying to see what model has the most interest and then we'll see about putting something into production.

    Forza,
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  4. Auraraptor

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    #4 Auraraptor, May 23, 2005
    The problem is the high compression ratio many (most modern) Ferrari's does not lend itself well to turbo's.
     
  5. RossoCorsaItaly

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    #5 RossoCorsaItaly, May 23, 2005
    Compression would be lowered via low compression pistons or thicker headgaskets. This would be included in the price.

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    #6 Auraraptor, May 23, 2005
    Ah so you mean $10-15k without installation? (ie all the needed parts)

    Type of turbo you are to use?
     
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    #7 tsyntax, May 24, 2005
    Kevin:

    I would be very interested for my 1987 TR! Please keep me posted.

    [email protected]

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  8. RossoCorsaItaly

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    #8 RossoCorsaItaly, May 24, 2005
    $10-15k without the installation. We can fly people to install though, price on that will be another $2-3k (est) including tuning.

    As far as the details I'm just trying to get general interest now. All the turbo kits will have different turbo options for whatever people want. We can economize and use regular turbos that would cost $800-900 each or for someone that wants the dual ball bearing option for around $2k/turbo. I'm the type of person that brings the customer what they want.

    Tony- I will keep you updated. I greatly appreciate your input.

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  9. 348 Turbo

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    #9 348 Turbo, May 24, 2005
    sounds like a great idea. I'm not trying to be a "nay sayer", but one of our site's sponsors; (Norwood Performance), currently offers a bolt on turbo kit for the 308. I don't know the price, but I think it IS in the 10-15k range.
    Best of luck.
     
  10. RossoCorsaItaly

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    #10 RossoCorsaItaly, May 24, 2005
    I've never looked into Norwood pricing but if it's in that range I'm not going to try to compete. I originally started this thread based on all the turbo kits I've seen in the $30k+ range. If there are others out there in the $10-15k range and a great company such as Norwood is producing them, I see no point in competing.

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    #11 GrigioGuy, May 24, 2005

    I highly doubt that's the price unless you already have a EFI system on the car. The issue with turbo/supercharger kits for anything older than a 348 is that the fuel system just isn't there for any high-boost setup. I've seen 308s with stock Kjets on them running low boost turbos, and was quoted about 5K to do that to my 328 by a local (non-ferrari-specialist) tuner shop, but the power gain wasn't worth the questionable reliability.
     
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    #12 348 Turbo, May 24, 2005
    exactly. I believe the Norwood kit is a relatively low boost setup. He'll offer it, (my guess only), with high boost and efi for more.
     
  13. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    #13 Dr Tommy Cosgrove, May 24, 2005
    It's weird to wake up to this thread this morning. Last night before I went to sleep I was reading an article in an issue of PC from 1981 on the Amerispec (sp?) 308 turbo kit.
     
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    #14 348 Turbo, May 24, 2005
    Yes, Kevin. It is my understanding that James Patterson,(owner of Norwoods), spent quite a long time developing a bolt on kit for the 308's only. I think it is in that price range, not sure. You are correct again, as far as them being a great company. It is no secret to this board that I'm a big fan of these folks and they've got extensive experience in this area. The reason their CONVERSIONS, (as opposed to kits), are so expensive is simply because they try HARD to improve reliability as well as performance. They've got untold hours, months and years of research invested in their turbo upgrades.
    That being said, I don't know a reason that a low boost kit COULDN'T be developed by someone that might be able to be bolted onto a car other than a 308, and there might be a market for it. Mr. Patterson spent a LONG time developeing the kit for the 308, I don't think he has any other kits, only offers in shop engine conversions for other models...............
    Best of luck to you,
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    #15 Mike C, May 24, 2005
    I rather see a supercharge kit for the 308QV than a turbo kit.
     
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    #16 Dr Tommy Cosgrove, May 24, 2005
    Didn't someone around here make one a little while back?
     
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    #17 GrigioGuy, May 24, 2005

    Mark was looking into it, but as I recall the install was going to require an EFI install as a prerequisite.
     
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    #18 evansp60, May 24, 2005
    I'd be interested in a 348 kit. Norwoods site has pormised such a kit for some time but it hasn't gone anywhere. I emailed and phoned and they never responded so I wouldn't spend a lot of time waiting for them!
     
  19. RossoCorsaItaly

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    #19 RossoCorsaItaly, May 24, 2005
    I'd rather do it on an EFI car. I have no experience whatsoever turbocharging carb cars and don't want to use you guys as guinea pigs. Pretty much the 348 is what I'm looking at right now. Since Norwood already provides a promising kit for the 308/328 I don't really see the need for me in that area.

    Forza,
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    By the way thanks for all the inputs guys, I really do appreciate feedback from the community.
     
  20. TURBOQV

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    #20 TURBOQV, May 24, 2005
    I agree Jeff. I blew an engine in the car from a so called "expert tuner" setting up my fuel unjection wrong and advancing the timing too far. We sent the car to Norwood and they did it right. I cannot say enough good things about James Patterson and Bob Norwood and their ability to make reliable turbo CONVERSIONS. The car is a blast and runs very well.

    Paul
     

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