Agree fully that a handy cheap tool for setting PIS would be a huge plus for many owners. I've worked in the firmware space of the electronics & software for 34yrs now, and I'm still waiting for the day when the team finishes a project and we can honestly say to ourselves that what we have made is perfection and can not be improved. All engineering projects are an uneasy compromise between resources and requirements. Now modifying the main code may indeed prove to be too difficult and time consuming, but there is a 2nd chip that stores a bunch of data that the main program probably uses. So just as in the case of engine ECUs, until we understand what these tables have in them we can never really know what the possibilities might be. I could imagine a scenario, in which a car is only for track use, and the 360 is not so hot at standing starts. So perhaps tweeking some data in one or more tables might yield an improvement there, but perhaps at the expense of it being terrible in traffic on the public highway - but if all i want is a track car then this would be good. So if someone has the interest and time, then why not explore the TCU and see what can be found. After all we need something to do in the winter.
+1. The braintrust on Fchat is deep. We all have a vested interest in figuring it out. Manufacturers know they are vulnerable to us. They want laws past that basically say the info in our ECU's is their copy righted data and we can't view it, modify it or in anyway play with it. The governments are happy to give this power to prevent emissions tampering.
Here is a source for some of the parts. I've never used them and can't comment if they are legit...24,000rpm? QR512 QR512E : Freewai.com - My Freeway to China Auto Parts & Accessories, Export | Wholesale | Retail Problem is the SV's aren't crossmatched to the parts A -E on the page but they are only $66 each plus $12 shipping to the UK per order (plus duty and tax). I may email them to see if they have parts numbers.....
Image Unavailable, Please Login I had to register to get the prices. The SV is £250 in the UK as an alfa spare so $100 landed would be good.
the dealer who sold me the valve can do cheaper than that, like $50 something outright not sure why a 3rd party is selling more than a main dealer.
Agree but there are no Chery dealers near me The 360 clutch SV I can find as an Alfa selespeed part but at £250 or $350!That's why the car companies used to call the UK treasure island until we started buying RHD cars in mainland Europe, so now it's plain old rip-off Britain. At $50 it's probably worth buying for the seals. www.selespeed.org has some useful info. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Has anyone tried to disassemble the solenoid valves? There is a gentleman on the 348/355 forum who needs an EV1 valve for his F355, but they are no longer available. They are different in appearance to the 360 and Chery solenoid valves, so he has had to commit himself to buying an entire power unit (with solenoids). Hideously expensive, of course. I'm considering buying one of those Chery QQ valves and opening up the case to see what's inside and if repairs are possible. I have a few concerns, however: Are the internals exposed to hydraulic fluids (or only if seals fail)? Where do I cut the case to get best access to the internals? It's been suggested that the coil might easily slip out if just the end of the case (near the electrical connector) is removed. How do I reseal the case without doing damage to the internals? If there are no hydraulics/pressure in the case, then some kind of epoxy weld might do. Does anyone know what the function of that white plastic keyway is on the end of the valve? Does the piston/shaft unscrew from the case? Does anyone have an old valve they can play around with? Thanks! Cheers.
Much appreciated, but we've been coming up with dead ends after months of searching... Here's the thread with some pics: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/355f1-solenoid.576140/ The end of the shaft appears narrower and longer. We're not sure if it's a Magneti Marelli part (I sent them an email recently to find out, but I'd be surprised if I get a response). The part number appears to be 12100046, but there are other numbers on there.. UJ02 069 3301 - 5/97 These, of course, have been Googled-to-death Cheers
just asked some AMT guru in China answer is no, out of more than 10+ models of cars that use the automated system, there's no such a solenoid match the 355's. so modification of the 360's solenoid is the only way to go
Thanks for trying, 24000. I've ordered a couple of QPV valves from China. Hopefully the case and its internal electrics are the same with just the mechanical valve openings which vary. I'm hoping the range of motion is the same on all the valves. If you have any old ones handy, does it look like the valve unscrews from the case? Just wondering what this indent is for on some valve types. It looks like a reset pin or release pin. Image Unavailable, Please Login
oh come on! why do you want to pay more rather than buying from me. Let me make a few bucks!! anyway, old solenoid? you mean used 360 solenoid? you want some pic on those indentations?
the pic you posted, is rather a little different than what I have on my 360 and what I bought from chery dealer. but I guess functionally they are the same to the 360. the do look like poorly made though, compared to my Chery solenoids. I suspect they are aftermarket stuff targeting QQ owners, like $10 each on Ebay's china equivalent.
Didn't know you were selling them, 24000 If I understand the advertisement correctly, one of the guys on YOYcart.com is selling new QPV valves for $64 (if I understand correctly). The used parts are half that. Unfortunately, Google translate didn't clarify what was written in Chinese. I don't think I'd be able to pick up any more information from photos. If you have that type, perhaps you could see what the pin does. Yes, if you have any broken 360-type solenoids, maybe you could see if they can be dismantled. Cheers.
Sorry.. crossposted.... Some of the photos in the advertisement do look like cheaper versions, but most of the items in the photos look like the more expensive type and have a Magneti Marelli label on them.
Has anyone confirmed that this all works fine over time for the 360? If so, it would be pretty incredible. My F1 system is perfect (thank the gods) but it's only a matter of time, and having such an affordable solution would be very welcomed.
ok, first, i'd say that yoyo's seller is selling some inferior parts, even by Chery's standard. Those solenoids are selling for US $10 or less on ebay's chinese counterpart. 2nd. if I am selling these to you, yes i'll make a profit. so small of a profit that even you buy 100 of these from me, it'll just not compensate the time and money I've poured into this and it will not make me rich. heck it won't even worth an oil change. so please, i dont want to be treated as an advertiser. 3rd. i am native chinese speaker, so ask anything chinese. hahhaha 4th. i'll take some shots on my used and new solenoids, so please be patient. happy Ferrariing. I
Awesome. How much would an entire kit be? Just thinking if I should grab one now while you have them on hand and I will store it away for future use...
it is unfortunately not an entire kit just the pressure black bulb, all solenoids, pump (F430 pump for later QQ too),
for 1x solenoid + 1x black pressure bulb + 1x 360 motor ( no pump head) = about $500 if i make a few bucks. You need 6 solenoids. each about $65. For F430 motor it is a little bit more. These 3 items are pretty much identical to OEM, plug and play, no mods needed. Shipping: depending on how many needed in the US. . I have to ship them from Hong Kong. Is there any duty and taxes for you? maybe not too much, i have no idea. in 2006 my mom in China shipped 70 lbs of electrical cable to my home in California and I paid $50 of duty.
oh, about the f1 actuator. There's a guy in China that is doing exactly the same thing as that in the US. rebuilding it for like $500....... I haven't been able to locate this guy yet, but I know he exist via another ferrari owner, who's a little snobbish. So he's not keen to talk to me somehow as I am a humble get-your-hands-dirty guy. if i found him, i'll let you guys know. heck , i might even want to try it myself. Its just seals, i kept telling myself.
