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Intermittent 308 Speedometer

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  1. 328KNB

    328KNB Karting

    Jun 14, 2004
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    Hi All

    The speedo on my '76 308 GTB started playing up - one minute its fine and the next it stops working. Seems as if its losing an input signal somewhere. Is this a common problem and if so is it fixable or what does on have to replace to sort the problem?

    Thanks

    Ken
     
  2. mattboyd

    mattboyd Karting

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    When the speedo goes out, does the odometer also quit advancing?

    -matt
     
  3. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    If the 76 models are the same as the injected cars you either have a bad sending unit or connections to it. It is VERY VERY common and not a very expensive part that you can replace in your driveway.
    This is common enough that I rarely believe the milage on 308's (also because it so easy to unplug the thing)

    It screws in down by your right rear wheel
     
  4. ham308

    ham308 Formula Junior

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    Two years ago mine had the same symptoms and I found it was working loose. It screws in and the body of the sender seems to make the earth connection. Screwed it back in and luckily it has been fine since.
     
  5. Nuvolari

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    I'll bet anything that it is the sending unit. They are notorious on these cars for going bad. Located on the transaxle it merely unscrews and is easily replaced.
     
  6. 328KNB

    328KNB Karting

    Jun 14, 2004
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    Thanks for all the feedback. The odo has also packed up too so my guess is that there is no signal. Will check out the sensor and the connections.

    Cheers

    Ken
     
  7. pete04222

    pete04222 Formula Junior

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    I had to replace the one on my car also. It is called the speedometer impulse generator and is easiest to access if you take the right rear wheel off. I think I paid around $150 for a new one.
     
  8. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    The odo and speedo run off the same signal....so if the speedo is acting up, the odo will too. You can try removing the sender (unscrew it) and cleaning it with a can of aerosol electrical contact cleaner, using the nozzle to spray into all the openings and electrical connector. Reconnect and cross fingers. That seems to have worked for one or two people. Most just end up buying a new one (I did).
     
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  10. LSU348

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    I just replaced mine. I think yours is identical to mine. That said, it is on your transaxle/tramsmission, driver's side and is relatively easy to get to once you pull the right rear wheel off (I suspect you could get to it without removing the wheel if you have a stand. You can plainly see the electrical connector if you look under the right rear of your 308. Follow the lead to the large brass "bolt" head and unscrew. Taking the wheel off/replacing took the most time. I think it took 20 minutes to replace mine including head scratching time needed to figure out how to heck to get my wrench in there.

    Mine bounced like crazy then went dead.

     
  11. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    See how many so far have had a problem? NEVER believe what you see on the odometer on these cars. I can tell you at least another dozen or so stories.

    Be careful when buying one
     
  12. barbo1

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    Mike, help me locate. I had the wheel off yesterday and was looking for the sender, I could not find what your talking about. Yours is '85 right?

    Right now my speedo is about 15 MPH fast and the odometer is doubling the milage on the trip meter. I was able to determine that by driving my Suv around the block. The 308 registered doble the actual. I really need to get this sorted out.

    Thanks for the help
     
  13. Ricambi America

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  14. barbo1

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    Thanks Daniel, ill be calling if I need the part, I appreciate your help!
     
  15. bernardo66

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    I too had the same problem last year. Speedo sending unit was the problem. As mentioned, very easy fix...as long as the pin that connects from the sending unit is not seized in the little pinion gear that sticks out of the transaxle.

    Try and guess who that happened to.
     
  16. barbo1

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    Thats too bad, how were you able to fix it? Im hoping that mine goes the easy route.

    Thanks for the input!
     
  17. bernardo66

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    I removed the little pinion gear that sticks out of the axle housing and went down to my local garage. There, the mechanic heated the gear and quickly cooled it off. Afterwhich, the pin slid right out.
     
  18. greg328

    greg328 F1 Rookie

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    Somebody above said this sender is on driver's side, then somebody else said remove the right rear wheel. That person must be in England!

    So, the sender appears to be on the clutch side, right?

    My speedo is suffering from the same problem every so often, so I figure I'll get in there and try to clean mine..

    Thanks,
    Greg
    77 308 GTB USA
     
  19. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    An intermittant speedo is usually the dash unit failing, if everything is working ..then it quits (odo also)

    The sender can fail...

    The dash unit can fail.

    or you can have a pinched wire at the metal frame loops, in between.

    I've never heard of "cleaning" anything making a difference, the pulse generator at the tranny either works...or not.

    The signal reaches the dash via wiring.....or not.

    The dash unit works.........or not.

    HTH
     
  20. greg328

    greg328 F1 Rookie

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    Thanks BT. Post #8 said cleaning may work, so I guess I'm guilty of wishful thinking. Plus, mine is very rarely intermittent, seemingly only so at high speeds for a length of time, i.e.; on the highway. Hard to pinpoint why...
    Plus, it's only non-functional for about a mile or so, then it kicks back in. Weird, huh?

    Thanks,
    Greg
     
  21. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    No...that's the failure mode of the dash unit..

    Somebody here is deep into one, repairing it with a new IC chip........I'm no good with solder at that scale so it's Palo Alto Speedo for me......
     
  22. greg328

    greg328 F1 Rookie

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    Oh great......

    :(
     
  23. f355spider

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    Disagree, the sender can go intermittent (did on my 308 and also on a friend's, though on my 355 it just completely crapped out). They are inexpensive enough, and easy enough to replace that I would go with that assumption first. IF it ends up it is the speedo, you now have a spare sender (they do fail every few years).
     
  24. greg328

    greg328 F1 Rookie

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    Thanks Hugh G.!

    :)

    Here's hoping a little TLC will fix my sender.....
     
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