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IRL DETROIT RESULTS: **SPOILER**

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  1. RP

    RP F1 World Champ

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    Justin Wilson claimed his first win in the IRL IndyCar Series in Detroit after Helio Castroneves was awarded to relinquish the lead by race control having allegedly blocked the Newman/Haas/Lanigan driver.

    Until the controversial late call by the officials, Castroneves looked set to take his third win at the Detroit street course and carve into title rival Scott Dixon's championship lead. With Dixon only finishing fifth, Castroneves has still reduced his deficit, but the title is now Dixon's to lose at Chicagoland next week.

    Dixon and Castroneves had stormed away from the field in unison in the opening stages, pulling out a huge lead over the rest of the pack.

    But when Dixon's Ganassi teammate Dan Wheldon - who had made a tactical early stop - tangled with Conquest's Jaime Camara and caused a yellow on lap 17, Dixon chose to make his first pit stop while the majority of the field stayed on track.

    That dropped Dixon to 18th place, and as the Kiwi made slow progress through the midfielders, Castroneves stormed away from KV's Oriol Servia, Wilson and Andretti Green's Tony Kanaan at the front of the field.

    By the time Castroneves made his own first stop under green on lap 30, his advantage was such that he was able to rejoin still ahead of Dixon, whose traffic delays meant that he was back in fifth place once all the front-runners had pitted.

    Dixon would remain there for the rest of the afternoon, while Castroneves comfortably pulled away after every yellow and at one stage led by a full 16 seconds.

    However when separate incidents for Wheldon and Mario Moraes (Dale Coyne Racing) caused the final caution with 25 laps to go, the pack was able to close back in on Castroneves.

    Wilson had passed Servia for second in the pits and he launched an immediate attack on Castroneves when racing resumed. The Brazilian held on to the lead, but his defensive tactics attracted the ire of the race officials, and he was ordered to allow Wilson past. He duly obeyed the instruction, allowing Wilson to sweep ahead on lap 73.

    Despite Castroneves' best efforts, Wilson was able to cruise home and clinch his first win since joining N/H/L and moving to the IndyCar Series, with the furious Castroneves having to settle for a close second place - putting him 30 points behind Dixon going into the finale.

    They finished comfortably clear of third-placed Kanaan, with Servia holding off Dixon for fourth. Ryan Hunter-Reay (Rahal Letterman) completed the top six.

    Bruno Junqueira used great strategy and some bold passes to move up from the back of the grid to seventh for Dale Coyne Racing, ahead of KV's Will Power, who lost ground when he damaged his front wing on Hunter-Reay's car, and Ryan Briscoe (Penske), who became caught in traffic having followed the same pit strategy as Dixon.

    This pit plan also backfired for Wilson's teammate Graham Rahal, who dropped back from sixth to 13th when he had to make a late extra fuel stop. That allowed Vision Racing's AJ Foyt IV to fill the final top ten spot.

    Other incidents saw EJ Viso crash out alone when on course for a top eight finish, Vitor Meira and Danica Patrick spoil their races with a collision, and Marco Andretti's uncompetitive weekend end in a gearbox failure.

    Tomas Scheckter never had a chance to feature after his Luczo Dragon car broke a half-shaft on the opening lap, but he was able to rejoin following a long stop for repairs - as did debutant Alex Tagliani, whose Conquest Dallara had gearbox problems in the early stages.


    Pos Driver Team Time
    1. Justin Wilson Newman/Haas/Lanigan 87 laps
    2. Helio Castroneves Penske + 4.4058
    3. Tony Kanaan Andretti Green + 17.6815
    4. Oriol Servia KV + 26.5468
    5. Scott Dixon Ganassi + 27.7185
    6. Ryan Hunter-Reay Rahal Letterman + 28.2688
    7. Bruno Junqueira Dale Coyne + 28.6815
    8. Will Power KV + 28.8776
    9. Ryan Briscoe Penske + 35.5244
    10. AJ Foyt IV Vision + 38.1040
    11. Hideki Mutoh Andretti Green + 38.3811
    12. Darren Manning Foyt + 44.4662
    13. Graham Rahal Newman/Haas/Lanigan + 47.8028
    14. Ed Carpenter Vision +1:01.2770
    15. Mario Moraes Dale Coyne + 1 lap
    16. Danica Patrick Andretti Green + 1 lap
    17. Vitor Meira Panther + 4 laps
    18. Marco Andretti Andretti Green + 6 laps
    19. Buddy Rice Dreyer & Reinbold + 11 laps
    20. Dan Wheldon Ganassi + 23 laps
    21. Tomas Scheckter Luczo Dragon + 31 laps
    22. Alex Tagliani Conquest + 33 laps
    23. Milka Duno Dreyer & Reinbold + 41 laps
    24. EJ Viso HVM + 55 laps
    25. Jaime Camara Conquest + 71 laps
     
  2. jknight

    jknight F1 Veteran

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    Glad to see the blocking finally enforced.

    Carol
     
  3. Isobel

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    I thought it was an awful call. It deserved a warning, nothing more. Second time for a drive-through penalty, fine, understood, but this looked scripted due to its immediacy. Embarrassing and undeserved.
     
  4. WCH

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    I admit I'm looking for reasons to reinforce my dislike of TG and his Spec Danica Racing League - watching a few minutes of Detroit, happily including the "move over" order, gave me a nice boost.
     
  5. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    I liked it when blocking was part of racing-it made it more intersting. I think I remember at Indy when it was accpeted, and the cars would move all over the track to win (or was that NASCAR). I felt sorry for Marco when they told him not to block, knowing how hard it is to get back into that position. Make them earn it-and if they want you out of the way, make them move you. That being said, it is far more dangerous with open wheels.
     
  6. GuyIncognito

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    Agreed. First, it was not a dangerous move (they didn't get close to touching or interlocking wheels). Second, it was the only block he made in the entire race, at least that made it to TV. Third, I thought they were supposed to warn drivers on specific situations and not the general "drivers meeting warning" prior to penalties. Fourth, I thought the rule was "one move is defending your position, two moves is blocking". I only saw one move.

    It was a penalty that had both race and championship implications, I thought it was a bit heavy-handed. That said I don't think it was done to let Newman Haas have the win, they were pretty strict throughout the race on calling avoidable contact. Maybe the chief steward woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
     
  7. ZUL8TR

    ZUL8TR Formula 3

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    Agreed. Just went back and rewatched the event and the comments at the end. Brian Barnhardt stated they have a driver's meeting where they tell them not to block. That counts as the warning. No one should assume they will be able to get away with it once with only get a simple slap on the back of the hand, then maybe a drive through for the 2nd offense.

    Helio had seriously checked out and had an incredible lead up until that yellow bunched them all back up. It was his race to lose up until that point. He even pitted and still made it back out to maintain the lead. Well driven race by Helio and crew. This was the first time I can really remember him being too upset to want to talk to the press after the race. Helio, "I have nothing smart to say right now. Help me out. I have nothing smart to say."

    Still, onto Chicago for the final race in the championship series. Dixon has to place 8th or better to clinch the championship. Its a oval, so anything can happen from bonehead move by another driver, equipment failure, etc. This is playing out nicely for fans of Dixon and Helio.


    The Indy Lights championship will be decided in Chicago too. Only 4 points seperate first and second. Finally watched their Twin 100 race in Sonoma. Second was pretty wild with one car ending rubber side up and the driver crawling out...and then the bumper cars between the two drivers racing for the championship.
     
  8. brian.s

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    Time to stop calling it the "Idiot Racing League", now it's the "Idiot NON-Racing League"!!
     
  9. of2worlds

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    Racing today has become far to antiseptic. What happened to protecting your position in a race. Constantly re-writing history in a race by making drivers move over or give back a position they gained is a bad joke. However the real joke is on the paying public. It isn't racing any more; it is simply an orchestrated parade.
    CH
     
  10. brian.s

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    fortunately there are no paying public at most INRL events.......
     
  11. futureowner

    futureowner Formula 3

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    I thought it was a very poor call. Everyone else this season and indeed as Tim Cindric said "since we joined the league in 2002" has gotten a warning first, penalty second. He did make a move but as has been said, nothing dangerous. I wonder if they counted two moves 1. the move right and 2. the move back left?
     
  12. ZUL8TR

    ZUL8TR Formula 3

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    So are you telling me I'm the only one that actually pays for tickets? bummer. Someone hook a brother up!



    BTW...you're right about the need for more HP that will force braking zones and possible passing. Example of ALMS is right on. the wife was wanting to go, so couldn't talk more.
     

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