Is $12K for a 355 Spider belt service (before any additional problems found) within range for 2023?

I was at $3600 in parts, but I did rebuild my entire rear suspension…but you never can tell what is going to need to be replaced. It’s a bigger job than most think… these cars are 30yo and need all the little bits evaluated/replaced to prevent an additional engine out gremlin(at least that’s what I did). My timing cover crumbled when taking it apart. Just replace it of its original… entire cover is only $500 from SF. Go by WOM with who does it and you will be happy on the amount you pay regardless if it is a little more or less than others. It is great to have all this feedback [emoji1360][emoji1360]


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I meant his hourly shop rate, not an estimate on servicing a car without seeing it/diagnosing it.

 

do we agree that these are the accepted levels of major services:
https://jscuderiautomotive.com/services/ferrari-service/355-service-menu/

 

I find that discussion kind of amusing. From time to time someone will call me and ask what my hourly rate is. I ask if they want to buy an hourly rate or if they want a completed job? For one thing I very rarely charge by the hour. Its really very seldom done. And I regularly hear of a number of hours charged for a specific job by another shop and wonder how the heck it took so long? Almost everyone has a labor charge defined for a specific job especially in these days of nearly universal flat rate. If its 8 hours and the guy takes 6 he still gets paid 8. If he takes 11 he still gets paid 8. So how is that charging by the hour? A shops declared hourly rate often has very little to do with what you will pay for a specific job. People should ask "What will this cost me?" (And they have a right to know) not "What do you charge per hour?".

 

No.

 

My car's prior owner paid 12k for a major service at a major factory dealer and they didn't even replace the spark plugs. A year later I pulled them and they were all rusted and...clearly very old.

Money != quality

 

So what constitutes a complete major?

 

How dull would the internet be if every forum answer consisted of “call someone and find out.”

Anyway, I did speak to Jenni and had a wonderful 20 minute conversation with her, she is charming and knowledgeable regarding the 355 platform.

I’ll drop my 355 with them mid-October. I’ll write a thread here to discuss what was done and the approximate prices for everyone’s benefit and enjoyment, because that is how an Internet forum is supposed to work.

 

Sad but not terribly suprising.

But we need to be sure we compare apples to apples. I just did $12000 worth of work on a 355 that included having the engine out and it did not get spark plugs either. People tend to describe every job that includes removing the engine or replacing the belt as a major service and that is just not reality.

 

How many miles on the plugs?

 

Read your post.

You “had a wonderful conversation with Jenni….”

Would you have had that conversation if you didn’t call the shop, and instead relied on what someone here posted? You’re asking people on a forum how much a shop charges? I don’t know whether you’re happy that you called the shop or pissed that I told you to call the shop. Make up your mind.

I didn’t think I had to advise someone that the best way to get an answer to the type of question you asked is to call the shop directly and ask them…but, who am I to try and use logic.

 

Every car is different. There are the basics, then there is the rest.

 

Well Mike, it’s not that your logic wasn’t sound, it’s just that your post didn’t add anything of value to the conversation.

Anyway your assumption was incorrect. Jenni actually called me a few minutes after I posted the (harmless) question, since I had inquired through the SR website a few days prior.

Since my car had a major less than a year ago, I’ll just send it in for a few upgrades.

I put 110 miles on mine today. Did you rack up anything more than a few more forum posts?

 

Since you’re the self-appointed FChat auditor, why don’t you tell me?

and, be honest, does it bother you that I got a few likes on the post on which I responded to you? That doesn’t include the PMs I received that also agree.

Its ok, you can admit you’re wrong, you won’t get banned from FChat if you do, I guarantee you won’t.

 

355 owners are so damn sensitive. Why is that..

 

Because they are trying to emulate Ferrari techs.

 

Okay. I like a little bit of poker. “I call.”

I don’t admit I was wrong.

I’ve been on FChat a half decade longer than you, if you think you have the clout to get me banned, do it.

You might be right; but I’ll bet you’re wrong.

Someone with 34,000+ posts likes to talk, whether they can back it or not.

I’ve dealt with bullies like you my whole life, so I’m not going to back down against a pedantic Canadian school teacher, or whatever you tell yourself you are.

Go ahead. I’ll wait.

In the meantime, I’m gonna go ahead and ignore you and your further attempts to start fights on a thread about 355s, which, I do not believe you even own?

 

It’s the power steering. It makes them soft.


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Now THIS is a quality post.

 

Arrogant much? You asked a question to the members asking what a shop charges for services....and you received exactly ZERO responses....doesn't it suck when your question is so irrelevant (or foolish) to the point that not a single individual gave you the answer you were looking for? However, someone else (myself) was kind enough to actually respond that you should call the shop directly to find out. Rather than be thankful and appreciative that you received ONE response, you go on the offensive. You make Hubris eat humble pie hourly.

Is this the type of response you were after? "Oh mighty one, please allow one of us minions to contact Dave Helms on your behalf, and inquire on his shop ratese".

If someone did post a rate, would you blindly drop off your car, without ever talking to him, and then when the bill comes and it varies from what was posted here, would your answer to Mr. Helms be "But but but...someone on FChat said it was "only" this much..."

It's too bad that racking up miles isn't equivalent to increasing one's class and mannerism, because clearly you have neither, and clearly you need a lot of both.

Amazing how that worked out, what a great concept, let's try speaking with the shop directly instead of asking 100,000 members on a Ferrari forum how that shop operates and what they offer. I should have thought of that and suggested you speak directly to the shop, I don't how I didn't think of that. But, maybe I'm wrong and you're right, perhaps the members here know how the shop operates better than the shop operates.

Ahhh, you're true colours (that's the Canadian way of spelling colour by the way) are coming to light....further proving my point....so for this, I refer you back to my earlier response: It's too bad that racking up miles isn't equivalent to increasing one's class and mannerism, because clearly you have neither, and clearly you need a lot of both.

This doesn't surprise me....and your definition of bully is questionable...but whatever makes you feel better, I'm all for it.

You got me...which, in your (incorrect) opinion, makes my input on anything here irrelevant....so we actually have something in common, we're both irrelevant.

But, you still didn't answer this my question - how does it feel when nobody here responded to your question? I bet your feelings are hurt...and I bet you feel bullied.

 

Thanks for proving my point so handily. While you may choose the Queens English, her grammar is not up for debate.

Any school that would employ someone who doesn’t know the difference between you’re and your is not one worth bragging about.

I learned class and manners from my family, and later two Ivy League universities, both of which I hold degrees from.

See, that’s just one striking difference between you and I.

Have fun typing another 34,000+ messages while pretending to work at the Western Canadian University of Moose and Maple Syrup.

You aren’t even from the “Harvard of Canada”.

I have nothing further to say to you. “You’re” not worth my time.

 

You are, huh?

You also forgot both shortly after you learned them....unless, that's your definition of class and manners.

 

You and me.

 

Yep. Ignored.

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Oh my, the irony - you're vs your.....my turn to correct you. It's Queen's English, not Queens English. The phrase "people with glass houses shouldn't throw stones" comes to mind here.

Are you sure you went to Harvard? Regardless of where you went, English wasn't your major.