Is advertising the product dead? Here's a whore, buy our crap!

Just saw the robot in this ad http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134789044&postcount=1 and thought {again}, advertising an actual product or item is no longer popular or common. You see minivan ads where the seats are folded into the floor one by one as the family run around the van playing musical chairs. In another a guy flips down seats, cup holders, visors looking for a noise then finds a bug. In another a kid says "it's great going places with my family" and shows the exterior of the van and no other info is given. Not how many seats, engine size or even the actual model.

um... WTF?!

Is every advertiser in the world just trying to pull the heart strings to get people to buy there crap? Take onstar, the show a blank screen while a woman pleads over the intercom for her life. <WTF?! Am I going to be scared into buying a van I have never seen because one day my wife may be stuck in traffic and have a baby?

um... Go **** yourself!

If I promote somthing, I always stick to the same line of thought
"How is this better in anyway than whatever else is out there?"
Is it of better quality, better price, better warranty, better selection, made in Canada, better for the environment,,, anything?

None of this 1 "hi, I'm sandy, if you buy this beer {which I have never tasted}, then I will boink your brains out."

or

2 "If you want to be cool, buy ours, because popular people have it then you will be cool too."

or

3 "Look at this beautiful car, drive, love, passion, live, style."

So many ads are like these, the problem is
1 what does it taste like? Is it sold near me? Is there aftertaste?

2 Ok, who has it and how much did you pay them to wear it?

3 You want me to put my family in a car that most likely just failed all of it's safety tests? Why? Because it's silver and has leather seats? That's all I saw in the ad and you want 40k of my money?


Every ad I see I can pick out half a dozen lies and the common thread they are using to sell the product which has nothing to do with the product.


QUESTION:
1 I see the Pontiac ads that have cars being raced around city streets with kids in the back, tachs that spike at 7,500 rpm's and cars in drifts. Can I do this with their car if I lease it? Why not? I saw them doing it in their ad and that's why I bought the car.

2. Tits are fine. I don't need to see them when I'm buying a house or being offered a job. How much is the asking price of the house? Any volcano's around? Are your fake breasts going to make me give you 1/2 of my salary for the next 15 years? NO!

3. Those Duracell ads on t.v where they say, "so and so use our batteries for whatever. Don't you think you should?"
So let me get this straight, "so and so" were given a boat load of free batteries and they did your ad for money and now you want me to think, you just showed up at their doorstep and they were using your batteries and were so greatful, they took a week and made a commercial for you? And if that is your logic, then you can do that with every business on the planet and then, you give away billions of batteries for a few years and make no money, then after that, everyone on the panet is using your batteries, so you drop the piece, to keep them buying your batteries, then when you own the market on batteries, they all of a sudden don't last as long or double in price.


Yes I always see the worst in people and businesses. I will even go as far as saying governments who let business' controll marketing like this are evil or as stupid as it gets. In 95% of cases, ads turn my stomach so much that I can't watch them. It reminds me how out of control the world is and how there isn't anything being done about it. The ads are just the tip of the iceburg. Laws and governments are so far out of date, it scares me. A child can be raped and killed over a period of months and the killer can get out of jail in 5-7 years. I can skin a cat alive and get community service. My house can be raided burned to the ground by a bunch of 15 year olds and in 3 years, it won't be on their record and if it's their 1st offence, they are "supervised" in the home.

Some days, I think of starting a few scam operations that last a few years, and move away with my millions.
Other days, I'm afraid to be in business because if someone falls outside of the office on a clear dry sunny day, the can sue me for millions because the CITY sidewalk is eneven or the glare from my window blinded them for a moment.

Our governments sell weapons to countries, then blow up the countries for using the weapons. <How did that happen!? How can we change it!?

We make joke about how all people in government offices are liars, thieves and lazy. <How did that happen?! How can we change it!?

For a kid to go to university in Nova Scotia it will cost nearly 10k per year not living on campus. Plus the other costs associated with university. We are screwing the lifeblood of our entire county for a few grand each and b!tch and cry when they leave the country to make enough cash to pay their debts, and of course they will stay in th country that they are making their living in.

The federal government tells us we will spend 2 million on a gun registry over 4 years. That total is OVER 2 BILLION NOW, BILLION WITH A ******** B! And it still isn't up and running! We have traced a money trail that leads from the Prime Ministers office to private compaines that is approaching 1 Billion dollars and no one is going to jail because the Prime Minister at the time is no longer in office. WTF does that have to do with anything?! If I rob a bank and move into an apartment, does that mean I can't be charged?



My first official rant and I hope someone can answer the ad questions and the "how to fix the government" questions.


P.S I have a digital camera for sale on eBay and after 4 bids it's up to $2.25 Damn it!

 

Is that your piss in a bottle or are you pointing out that tits and real topics can still sell?

 

I don't drink Ryan. I have however just lost another $6,000 and I work for a corporate communications company. You seem to be a bright one, how would you go about cleaning up a government?

 

Honesty.

A weekness for sure at times.

Only lazy/ crazy / hazy people play by the rules. All of the people who rise to the top {who make the rules} don't play by the rules. They either bend them or brake them to get where they are. My money is on the latter.

 

A 6 mo. government contract that was my close was lost. Cut backs on their side was the cause {a lot of that goin' around}.

1 How does a population "fix" a government? {holding promises, health care, education, family values etc....}

2 How does one go about cleaning up marketing / advertising?

 

Even if I let you wear gloves?

 

First of all, there are more people in the world every year and more people are buying above their worth every year, so all sales are up. If the advertising game was played properly, you could corner the market on what ever you are selling {or nearly}. If it's the best and costs the same as the worst, they will buy yours.

You're missing the point anyway. I know why the adverts are created like this and I know what they are trying to do. My question to you is why can't anyone market their actual product? I know advertisers say "a 15 year old kid on a skateboard is what we have done in the past, so we will keep using that image no matter what we are trying to sell to them." Even if it's a lap top for a kid, he will be typing keys as he drops in on the vert ramp.

Why can't they say "This computer has a longer battery life, quicker downloads and has a 3 year warranty, yet still costs the same as last years model"?

Do advertisers and compainies think everyone in the world is an idiot?
I won't buy a car because it has chrome wheels and golf clubs in the back.
Would any of you? Who are being swayed into buying items just because of a colour or feeling?

My mother is a sap and God love her she is too close minded about everything. She will buy a new car from "her salesman" without seeing it!
I have asked her why and she says "he knows what I want". He tried to "lease" her a Mustang convertible a year ago. I asked her if she ever would drive one and she said "no, he was just trying somthing new."
So basicly this guy tried to sell her the most expensive car he had because he knows she is a sap. She can't see this and yet she will defend this guy to the end of the world.

That has nothing to do with marketing, it's more along the lines of being a moron.

She sees the ads on t.v. for the same car and she doesn't budge or say a word, even she isn't coaxed by the retarded 30 second spot. And she's a nut!

I am at a loss in regards to this situation. My own company spins these kinds of ads out and when they flop, they do it all over again.

Last year we lost a fairly major client and our competition scooped them up and won one of the worlds biggest awards for advertising. I bring this up to the 3 bosses above me and they don't even blink. It's like they don't understand what happened.

I think I will start a new breed of humans on Mars. No ads, not morons ans no fat chicks. Wait, wasn't that an ad....

 

You aren't helping.

 

The music is different AND good, it's a neat spin on a classic but the product isn't mentioned at all. I can barely tell you what make it is. If I hired a company to market my car and they came back with that, I'd throw them off the roof. It isn't college and you aren't drunk at your girl friends place screwing around with her computer! Make me a Gawd Damn advertisment FOR my product. Don't spend my money on YOUR project with a small shot of my car at the end.

The Nova Scotia government has just unveiled a $10M tourism campaign. We have some Scottish, English, Native and French history with Aribic, Chinese, Indian and German in the population now. We chose a song to go along with the beautiful scenes of our province as well. Too bad it's a Gaelic song and no one speaks the language any more. And when translated into English it's about starvation, death in a horrid wasteland!!!! Also, the Federal and provincial governments are pouring money into the province to increase immigration, too bad the campaign doesn't show our diversity. {Left hand doesn't have a clue that there is even a right hand OR a body!}
The government thinks:
accessible, safe, genuine, dependable, resourceful, creative and innovative
are the 7 words that spring to mind in the eyses of our tourists. It's incredable that they came up with those words without conducting one study or poll. Even if they polled for a week in the peak of summer, they would find that everyone would choose a different word/ felling because they come from all over the world!

Nova Scotia is not "accessible", to the rest of Canada let alone 98% of the states or the rest of the world.

Nova Scotia is not "safe", we have the same amount of crime per capita as the rest of the country.

Nova Scotia is not "genuine", we collectivly can't put together who we are as a province because our history is such a mess.

Nova Scotia is not "dependable", we are the ones who cry to the federal government for hand outs every year {twice really, at every election}.

Nova Scotia is not "resourceful", our young population is leaving and our older population has inceased numbers of every disease imaginable. We found a large cash of oil off of our coast 10 years ago and only take in 4% of the profits

Nova Scotia is not "creative", our governments rely on the same tired old promises to get them into office and we keep sending them into office and we still can't find away to attract new people or keep the ones we have.

Nova Scotia is not "innovative", we were last in the country for bringing/ creating business for the past 2 years. Our tourism was down 15% last year and will be down again this year. Our major cultural festival may not happen this year because a US company sweet talked the city into grants and the exact location of our festival. They are also using local business's names and logos as sponsors in their adverts without permission. When city hall was asked about this they said "If laws are broken, call the police, we have nothing to do with law or order".

Where's that drink?

 

Thanks for adding to the already lack luster debate.

And yes boobies can sell pretty much anything... what a shame.

 

I don't drink pop either Mario.