http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=24149 According to pitpass Bernie wants to force a change to the Qualifying session. Granted I'm not a big fan of the qualifying over 2 days, I hate it, when I watch Qualifying I want to know right now who is on pole. I don't want to wait until an hour before the race to watch it on T.V. But the fact that Bernie keeps changing things and switching it around from season to season or even mid season, seems like a very unstable individual. Strikes me as a spoiled brat, who changes the rules because it doesn't please him. Yet he never listens to what the fans want!
Well the article points out, that the issue is with the TV networks not airing the 2nd qualifying session. We all know Bernie is the $$$ keeper of F1, so he has to react. I'm not just cynical here, the teams are in this for the money for a large part and that money comes from TV. Interestingly the article cites that fans are unhappy with the current qualifying format. Hmm, maybe I am different from the rest of the world: I love the current format.
I dont like today's format because I cannot see QLF2 on TV at all. What's the point... I want 2002 format back... It was real simple back then
I'd like to see the old full hour, run as much as you want, at anytime sessions back. But that would foul the start on your fuel load that you qualified with rule I like so much. Maybe it wouldn't?
I don't mind the new qualifying format, but it would be fun if they eliminated qualifying entirely and started the driver's in reverse order from their finishing positions of the previous race. Minardi might get to lead a lap.
I don't know if you are joking about this, but I think that is a bad idea. Qualifying makes perfect sense, but this new format, in which you qualify over 2 days is so stupid. I like Qualifying 1, because they run the car's as light as possible, so you get a true sense of the car's pace. What I hate is the fact they spread the Qualifying over 2 days.
Or you could do it like we used to in Kart racing. Run a qualifying session as it is now. Then run a 30 minute race from those positions. Then flip the qualifying session starting positions and run another 30 minute race on the same day. Take the two finishing results and pull an average position for each driver and that's the starting grid for Sunday. Bernie and fans get lots of action and the teams get actual race data to work with.
Did anyone see the qualifying in Australia? I know i did, i was there Seriously guys, the 1st session was raining at the start of it, and was dry at the end of it. Thats the reason why MS started way down the field. SO basically, its a draw out of the hat for a good time to qualify, if there is so-so weather. Im up for the old system, and because the Bern-Meister is as well, it will be back, we all know that. Look to see it Mid-Season.
15 minute session: 5 cars on track (last 5 positions from the previous race) 15 minute session: 5 cars on track 15 minute session: 5 cars on track 15 minute session: 5 cars on track (best 5 positions from the previous race) The Jordan/Minardi get the television time they want.
Tell you wat did someone use bern head as a baseball if they did'nt someone needs to qual should on sat 1hr long hail, rain' , shine, 1 hr do as many laps as you want to post your best lap if you get end up behind a slow car hey! thats too bad you can go round again still got plenty of time. What about pit stops don,t get me started on pit stops for fk sake 22 mechanics inpit crew only 6 of them do any work rest of em just stand around looking at tyres come on bern me old mate fair suk of the savv!!! cheers rizzo
1 hour, 12 laps, banzai ! the current format is stupid. i also hate the fuel restrictions. while we're at it, i also hate grooved tires, the raised aero rules, the new design requirements every year and a few other things.... bring back the old format, slicks, and then leave it alone for 5 years to give the minardis of the world time to polish their donkeys to get within 1 second/lap of the front runners.
It's not possible to leave the technical rules unchanged for 5 years as the cars will just get too fast. As for qualifying - I hate this years system. I can watch Saturday qualifying on TV, but it doesn't actually mean anything. The real qualifying is not shown on UK TV and I'm sure it's the same story in other countries. Qualifying should take place on a Saturday. We should know on Saturday who is on pole so the newspaper editors can print something about the race on Sunday morning and we can actually see qualifying on TV. The reason qualifying was changed in the first place was that teams would just sit in their garage for the first 45 minutes of the qualifying hour and then all rush out at the end. Afterwards they would all complain about other cars getting in their way! I think qualifying should be a one hour Session and I think Mr Payne has the right idea: 15 minute session: 5 cars on track (last 5 positions from the previous race) 15 minute session: 5 cars on track 15 minute session: 5 cars on track 15 minute session: 5 cars on track (best 5 positions from the previous race)
The new way just is a bit complicated and not engaging enough for the average viewer like me, and there is no payoff at the end of Q1. I don't watch qualifying anymore either. Old way = Simple Simple = Good Old way = Good JMHO rt
A single one hour session on Saturday should determine the grid, just as it did last year, and during all the years the 12 lap system was used. The current system is so convoluted and pointless, any of the systems from the past 20 years would be better.
his accident was not due to excessive speed. frankly, there are easier ways to restrict speed which would make the show better. a return to manual gear boxes is one that i like, but not for everybody. air restrictors like in f3000. etc.
Just about everything: - We have one session in which the cars go flat out with empty tanks, just like in the good ol' days. - We have one session where they play hide and seek with fuel loads hence making the strategy guessing game possible. - We have two combined sessions so the drivers are forced to do both sessions and do well in them. Last year they could basically sit the first one out. - We have single driver qualifying which allows me to see every driver and see how well or not they hit the apex, miss breaking points etc. In the old system you only saw the top runners. - The teams have equal TV exposure and hence a chance to show their sponsors. Levels the playing field a bit for the not so rich teams. - There are now actually cars out on the track on Sunday morning before the race. As a local spectator last year sucked where you had to sit there all morning long without a F1 in sight. - And best of all: Mother nature has twice a chance to cause havoc with the grid. As seen in Melbourne. Watching that first session was more interesting than most races last year.
- We have one session in which the cars go flat out with empty tanks, just like in the good ol' days. True, but unlike the old days they are not competing for a grid position on empty tanks - We have one session where they play hide and seek with fuel loads hence making the strategy guessing game possible. - We have two combined sessions so the drivers are forced to do both sessions and do well in them. Last year they could basically sit the first one out. There are 2 Sessions, but we only get to see the one on Saturday that means nothing. Actual qualifying happens on Sunday and the only way to find out what's happening is to either be at the race or watch via the net - We have single driver qualifying which allows me to see every driver and see how well or not they hit the apex, miss breaking points etc. In the old system you only saw the top runners. - The teams have equal TV exposure and hence a chance to show their sponsors. Levels the playing field a bit for the not so rich teams. That's why I like Mr Payne's idea. It also means the cars can trip over each other like the good old days. - There are now actually cars out on the track on Sunday morning before the race. As a local spectator last year sucked where you had to sit there all morning long without a F1 in sight. Fair point. If they did away with the dangerous practice of refuelling in the race then they could have a morning practice session at the track. I miss being woken up in my tent by the wail of an F1 engine passing the campsite! - And best of all: Mother nature has twice a chance to cause havoc with the grid. As seen in Melbourne. Watching that first session was more interesting than most races last year. Again, Mr Payne's system could cause havoc during a wet/dry session
Anthony, a couple of comments: - The Saturday session is for grid position because of the aggregation of time. - At least here in the States we do get to see both sessions. The 2nd one is tape delayed, but it is broadcasted. Makes for an even earlier Sunday, but so be it. Of course in a perfect world we'd be having only practice sessions Thursday through Sunday and define the grid by reversing the WC points. And no, I'm not on crack. I honestly believe that. I said it when MS was dominating and I say it now that the Renaults are dominating. It doesn't matter: Watching the leader work his way through the field cannot be matched in drama by watching the leader drive off into the distance.
Id like to see the old one hour open track quali come back. Get rid of the stupid parc ferme btw quali and the race too. All this b.s. just ensures that the cars will qualify at their race pace, and consequently reduces the actual racing that will go on. You used to have certain teams / cars that shined with low fuel, high grip, etc. and would grid up front but might not be as good in actual racing loads. Then they would fight the teams / cars that were better in the actual race setup. Now, everyone starts on the grid almost exactly where they should finish, provided they dont have mechanical failure. This should be pretty obvious to people getting paid millions of $$$ a year to make up these rules Edit: I'm not againsts trying different formats, two days, etc (you never know til your try...). But doing all of this on race setups is just plain stupid IMO. I kind of like the go-kart type quali, although I'm not sure that the teams would be into the financial aspects of it.
