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Is Ferrari putting all their eggs in the F2005 basket?

Discussion in 'Other Racing' started by bretm, Mar 21, 2005.

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  1. bretm

    bretm F1 Rookie

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    Since the speculating has gotten to 1849 California levels in the various Malaysia threads, I figure it's about time we start an F2005 thread as the topic is still hot after yesterday and it seems certain that it will appear in Bahrain, probably for both MS and RB. So, how do you guys think it's going to do?

    Thoughts:
    I have to wonder if the F2004M's aero package is representative of the F2005, Renault seems to have the best aero package of the group with a more traditional approach to the front wing. The F2004 looks to be destroying tires, rears especially compared to some of the Michelin running leaders. Will Ferrari go a curved front wing instead of the winglet on a relatively straight wing?

    Are the 055 customer engines down on power compared to the 055s that Ferrari will be running? The Sauber wasn't exactly dropping the hammer on the Ferraris still running modded 053s. Or are the 055 benefits primarily centered on handling (Cog / weight)?

    Are the Bridgestones they are running now F2004M specific with more competitive tires coming for the F2005? At the end of the race, the Renault's tires looked new compared to RB's...

    And lastly, I have a hard time believing Renault's two race coup here represents the next 6 months of F1. Ferrari is buddy buddy with seemingly everyone running the show, from media to tech regs. It just seems odd that they wouldn't have some sort of advantage, especially with their budget. I can't picture Renault doing more with less $$, in particular in regard to how huge Ferraris lead was technically going into this season. I think the F2005 is going to bring reality back into perspective. I guess we'll know in two weeks.
     
  2. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    The 2005 car will increase their competitiveness, but I do think it is more about the Bridgestones and them not being able to cope with heat. RB was able to reach the podium with the old car, so the car cannot be that bad.

    I'm doubtful, that (regardless of 2004 or 2005 car) Bahrain will bring a turn around. It'll be more like a repeat of Sepang. But thereafter in France we will see where Ferrari really stands and I bet Magny Cours will be the comeback point. That will be particularly interesting because if there is one race Renault wants to win, it will be that one.
     
  3. Testarossa BR

    Testarossa BR Karting

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    I also think that is Bridgestone tires too, but it make sense Michelin have about 7 teams using their tires what means more testing, but Bridgestone have only Ferrari, yes only Ferrari you can't count Minardi and Jordan hehe, I've hear that the F2005 is about 0.5sec faster than the F2004M at Fiorano track, let's hope the japanese guys make a good tyre and we can win races again. Forza Ferrari!
     
  4. artn

    artn Karting

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    Also, I was just curious as to why Ferrari is late in introducing the full 2005 spec. car.

    Didn't they wrap up development on the 2004 car early to begin work on the 2005 car last season? Or was that the season prior to the last? (maybe I am getting confused...)

    With their dominant performance, you'd think they would be ahead of the game w.r.t to having the new car ready....
     
  5. Omerta

    Omerta Formula Junior

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    They still may be ahead of the game. The 2005 may be leagues ahead of the other cars, just as the 2003 and 2004 cars were. I dont think the 2004M is meeting Ferrari's expecations (partnered with the bridgestones, that is), but hopefully the 2005 is a different story. Last year McLaren released their new car when it wasnt ready, and looked what happened. Ferrari will not release a car that isnt ready, and by ready I mean perfect (...lets hope).

    But I too believe that this season will be fought with tyres.
     
  6. lee168

    lee168 Formula Junior

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    Both Ross Brawn and Rubens were careful in saying that it was a piece of rubber that was stuck in the wing of Rubens' car which changed the aero set up. This imbalance created the oversteer of the car (for more than 20 laps) which caused the excessive wear of the rear tires.
     
  7. Gatorrari

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    And the irony is that the rubber came from one of Raikkonen's Michelins!
     

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