Is it possible to bench test the marelli digiplex ? | FerrariChat

Is it possible to bench test the marelli digiplex ?

Discussion in '308/328' started by [email protected], Sep 7, 2009.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. andy2175m4@yahoo.com

    [email protected] Formula Junior

    Dec 7, 2008
    473
    Los Angeles, CA
    Full Name:
    Andy Rein
    I have an 82 308, with the 801A digiplex ignition modules, and the car is running so badly I can't begin to tell what the problem is.

    The first rule of diagnosing a poorly running car, is to fix the ignition system first, and fix it completely, before attacking the fuel system.

    Is there any procedure that can cited for how to determine if the digiplex is good or not by testing it on the bench ???

    I just want to test it so I can determined if I need to replace the modules. At this point I am looking at aftermarket ignitions, but would like to determine if the digiplexes are shot before I go out an buy any aftermarket system.

    TIA

    Andy
     
  2. 2dinos

    2dinos F1 Rookie

    Jan 13, 2007
    3,041
    They're pretty tough. I had an ign problem that turmed out to be some water that collected in the bell hsg wells with the sensors. Another GTSi ign prob I came across was one of the female spade connectors to a coil broke inside the heavy boot. It got flexed / bumped during an oil filter R&R.

    Bench testing?? Doesn't sound straight forward on the Digiplex. I've done a Dinoplex on the bench. I had to make a wiring harness and get a bunch of components to set it up.
     
  3. fastradio

    fastradio F1 Rookie
    BANNED Professional Ferrari Technician

    Apr 26, 2006
    3,664
    New England
    Full Name:
    David Feinberg
    Well, not exactly...If your car is running poorly, you'll need to determine if the problem is:

    -Ignition
    -Fuel related
    -Mechanical

    Starting with numerous diagnostic/visual tests/inspections...

    Yes...an Engineer friend of mine and I have co-developed a bench for testing the Digiplex units. We can test and plot spark out, advance versus RPM/barometric pressure.

    For perspective, nearly 99% of the boxes that we have received that were "deemed defective" were actually fine...


    Best,
    David
     
  4. Sheldon Rubin

    Sheldon Rubin Rookie

    Jul 10, 2006
    37
    Contact the Jose at the ECU Doctors in Florida. They post their repair services on eBay. They fixed both my Model 803As. Their Test Set-Up is rather elabaorate, expensive and manufactured by Bosch and is capable of testing various ECUs. I doubt if it would be practical or cost effective to set-up your own tester.
     
  5. M.James

    M.James F1 Rookie

    Jun 6, 2003
    2,721
    Worcester, MA
    Full Name:
    Michael.C.James
    Shop before you buy...as they always say. I've used David's service for a pair of 803As I had sitting on a shelf and collecting dust awhile back. Their condition was 'unknown' (removed from a running car), but another poster had a known-dead unit in his car and wanted to buy mine if they checked out. Having seen a privately-shared pic of the setup used to test my units, it exactly mirrors what's 'going on' in the 308 engine complete with flywheel sensors, variable RPM adjustment, OEM connections, and other features that accurately determined that my units were working correctly with minor internal adjustment. As a result, I was able to sell the units and put another 308 back-on-the-road. It cost me less than what the ebay-ad service is charging, but I understand that ebay advertising/overhead isn't cheap.

    Now, I also have a JETRONIC lambda ECU box of 'unknown' condition I would like to sell (came from the same car as the Marelli 803As, so it should be good as well)....would anyone recommend the ebay-advertised service to have it checked out?
     
  6. mwr4440

    mwr4440 Five Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Jun 8, 2007
    57,988
    Bavaria, The 'Other' Germany
    Full Name:
    Mark W.R.
    I am a dummy.

    Wouldn't you make sure the car had the correct air and correct fuel flow BEFORE you worry about a spark?

    Poor fuel flow and all the ignition work in the world won't matter, will it?


    I really Don't know ...... honest question.
     
  7. brian.s

    brian.s F1 Rookie
    Professional Ferrari Technician

    Nov 3, 2003
    3,809
    Midwest
    Full Name:
    Brian
    First rule would be to check all mechanical, comp/leakdown/cam timing. Then ignition, then fuel. Although a fuel quality check could be carried out first. IMO.
     
  8. fgcfire8

    fgcfire8 Formula Junior

    Jan 19, 2008
    459
    Montpelier Va
    Full Name:
    Frank Castelvecchi
    IF the car runs at all even sputtering.
    A quick ignition check is to take a timing light and clamp on each plug wire in turn and see if a regular strobe pattern results and aim #1 and IF get good strobe pattern could still be bad plugs so pull and examine one or two. If plugs ok then look for other causes with fuel or timing. IF plugs are questionable then replace them. Plugs are cheap and easy and often can get engine started even if bad plugs are not the cause, they quickly get fouled and can be a secondary problem--especially with flooded outboard motors.

    If fuel is over a few months old bad fuel is a good possiblity--I have solved some seemingly intractable problems on other makes by changing out old fuel. The Mondial has yet to sit long enough for stale fuel to be an issue.

    Rule should be check the easy stuff and the most common stuff first.
     
    climb likes this.

Share This Page