Is it time for gun control in America?

26 were shot in Chicago last month where gun ownership is essentially illegal. Try again. Do you have any gun crimes in the land of Oz? Did you reluctantly say, "yes." How could that be? They're illegal.
Chicago Weekend Shootings: Four Dead Among The 26 Shot Around The City In Weekend Gun Violence

We Americans are a strange lot. We don't really care if we are killed by a knife or a gun or a lead pipe. We feel that dead is dead. We also understand that murder is not the only crime that is ever committed. There's robbery, assault, burglary, theft...lots of nasty things that people do to each other.

I did a little reading about the crime rate in Australia. Since 1996, when you banned guns, your crime rate has gotten worse. Assaults are way up. Could it be that criminals and predators know that the helpless cannot fight back? Oh, and with all the fanfare, your murder by handgun rate has averaged 19 for the past 20 years. BFD. Thanks for proving to the world that banning guns has zero statistical impact on gun deaths. http://www.aic.gov.au/documents/0/B/6/%7B0B619F44-B18B-47B4-9B59-F87BA643CBAA%7Dfacts11.pdf
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19... out of 22 million... so one in a million then

Those odds aren't too bad really!


US - about 8,500... out of 315 million... so about one in forty thousand... but you're OK with those odds so all's good



And I can see why you aren't concerned about other assault methods... they are really only noise
source: FBI ? Crime in the U.S. 2011
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You're right the rise in assault numbers isn't acceptable, however I don't think that justifies a return to less rigorous gun controls. Every other stat is down when compared to a population increase of 25% (robbery and homicide even without an adjustment for population increase!!) and sexual assault is at its lowest since 2001!!!

And this is where you guys are "wery wery scarewy".....I'll accept the increase in more assaults if it means less rapes, robberies, kidknappings and dead people because we have banned guns. We aussies are a strange lot
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I felt that statement was so significant. In all my years of guns, I think that's the heart of it all.

 

Not necessarily gun control ...but thought provoking none the less, who would have thought TV could be so honest!

The most honest three and a half minutes of television, EVER... - Safeshare.TV

 

but is it true ?

 

Nice segment on the gun debate on channel 7 tonight

Some great logic as usual from the gun nuts

 

Yawn.

The anti gun crowd never stops...

Kai

 

So you saw the piece?

 

I am just wondering about the lack of logic that removing guns from law abiding citizens will make criminals less violent.

What is so exciting about the idea of making law abiding citizens more vulnerable to criminals?

"When seconds count, the police are just minutes away".


This constant drum of anti gun nuts that are afraid of their own shadow that erroneously believe that law abiding citizens will be safer WITHOUT a gun to protect themselves.

If it wasn't so sad it would be funny.


By the way, yesterday a woman was killed by three low life's on Hollywood Boulevard for not forking over a Dollar.

She did not possess a gun.

She was stabbed to death.

Many believe that a gun could have saved her life.


I guess that the anti gun crowd is proud.

I think they should go and **** themselves.


Kai

 

So you didn't see it then?

 

Mods, Can we get this thread shut down? there is obviously no logic or respect involved - I'm sick to death of lunatics invading what is supposed to be a local topic. It's not P&R - if I want this cra* I'll go there.

C'mon Pap.

 

I'm with you Dave, I had P&R deleted from my menu years ago due to the "logic" shown by that crowd

 

Been away for the last 3 day's and just saw this.
I'll vote for a shut down,I'm over the fundamentalist thinking.

 

one particular dickhead ??

at least we know he can't blow his brains out

 

you lucky you don't have to live here, its a joke our gun laws

 

go over there then, the IQ of both countries will increase, guns are for dickheads and cowards unless you are in the military or police and the odd pest control operator

You gun nuts give me the ****s with your soft top 250 GTOs

 

im more interested in classic guns not the modern crap , but under our stupid laws they are banned as well .

 

lol..........half the military and police shouldn't have guns either , ive seen these guys shoot , half of them are lucky to hit the target

 

it's not a matter of who is the best shot but the mentality of the possessor of the gun which seems to be the main problem in the US, ..... mentally unbalanced people having such easy access and the president has been shot down in flames but the gun nuts for trying to address this problem

 

Well done.

Thank you CCW holder.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/24/19106402-man-shot-attempting-to-rob-group-waiting-to-buy-lebron-james-sneakers?lite


Kai

 

High 5, God bless America!

 

Just another day in paradise huh?.....It's funny but that sort of thing just doesn't seem to happen here ....go figure

 

Please check your stats on violent crime in AU.

You are not seriously alleging that there are no robberies in Australia?

Because that would be silly now, wouldn't it???




Kai