IS MY FLOOD F430 MOTOR TOAST?

yikes that is a mess; sorry that is all I got, but I would say your are right on the toast thing.

 

Well, it pains me to say it, because all I want to say is that I"m very sorry your car experienced this misfortune -- but any kind of water damage needs to be addressed immediately after it happens, especially with salt water. Salt water sitting in anything will be highly destructive in short order. It's hard to say what it would have taken to resolve immediately after the storm -- but almost a year and a half later, the damage almost certainly has multiplied. Hope you get good advice in this thread and I am again sorry that you had to experience this.

 

DOA

Have to say I am surprised its so bad.

If 430 engines were hard to find it could be fixed but its not worth it. Clean it up, put it back together and make garage art out of it.

You are discovering why insurance companies typically do not entertain repairing flood cars. It never ends. How is the transmission?

 

Out of curiosity was this your car when it was in the flood and you chose to fix it or did you buy it at auction after the flood?

 

I have never seen one that bad.

 

Ouch... that's next level terrible in there.

@Rifledriver Sleeves or liners maybe?

Ray

 

Junk. $200 per liner, $900 per piston. Heads are wrecked too. Any bets on the crankshaft? Motor is scrap metal. Metal in the oil didn't come from the pistons/cylinders.

If it was a Lampredi motor you'd fix it. Its not. Its a door stop.

 

That's not just toast. That's the overly burnt toast that gives you the nails on the chalkboard feeling when try to to spread cold butter but all you manage to do is make a crunchy sound and turns a once perfectly good piece of bread into worthless sand.

 

Turn it upside down, I bet if you checked the bearings and connecting rods you' have your answer. I don't see any pics from underneath. Was this a write-off car you bought or your own car?

 

Far out, pistons and liners toast alright. Top end don't look too bad.

I am looking forward to seeing what the crank and bottom end looks like Nick.

Please post pics when you can.

 

It looks like you need to turn the crank, get under size bearings, new sleeves, pistons, rings, and cylinder heads. Maybe you can find some used parts. Maserati has a similar engine platform and may be a source of some parts. Be every careful though, they are not exactly the same.
I had a client with a 430 he picked up for a deal and it had a Maserati short block swapped into it. We ended up finding a used 430 engine and swapping it back.
Just letting you know that you may have more options for parts. Do some research and due diligence and see what you come up with.

 

I’ve seen worse!

Yes, I think you’ll get’er done for less than $25k - but does the title on the car show as “scrapped due to flood”?

Kevin

 

If it really only has 3000 miles its what happens when a motor is run full of debris.

I am simply not going to believe the bearings got that bad and the crank is fine.

Have you opened the transmission yet?

By the way, whats the VIN?

 

I'm almost afraid to ask, but did someone try to run this motor AFTER immersion? Or did someone with a suspect 430 get incredibly lucky to have his failing engine drowned in a hurricane?

 

Oh you damaged it. I would say the bearings and crank are the only parts with damage from running. The rest of the damage was done. Have the crank polished and measure it. if it cleans up and measures good, run it with standard bearings. If not, turn it first under size and then run it. These cranks are very hard and take a lot before the surface breaks down.