is the 308 a classic?

Thanks!

 

The most classic Ferrari of the Boomer era.

Next question.

 

Well then, what the heck constitutes a classic car?

The '57 Chevy is a classic car. How many did they make of that one, like 50,000 units, more?

-F

 

Once again you completely misunderstand the original purpose of this thread (created by Ross). It goes back to my statement in another thread that the 308 and 360 will never be considered a classic like the cars of the 60's. That owners of them should drive them and not treat them like some hand made car they made 200 of. Its OK to mod them, improve them, and not worry about "value" because they never will reach that kind of status to worry about.

IMO, this entire thread has been nothing but silly clickbait.

The 308 is an iconic car. An important car. A fun car to drive. A good looking car. Hell... I had 2 of them. But it's never going to be in the same classic class as those of the 60's. And in fact, its Ferrari's first real mass production car with V8 instead of V12 and a Ferrari badge on the back. Depending on how you look at it, that's either great or awful.

Anyone really disagree here? If so, you have been drinking too much red koolaid.

The 308 is an ICON.

 

94% of Ferrari enthusiasts here disagree with you, you can see the top of the page; so asking if anyone "really disagrees" with you seems ridiculous.
Referring to the discussion as silly click bait just because you happen to be wrong is quite condescending.
Ross has proven his point.

 

I think Mayor is also making an error in lumping all 3x8 together... look at the tiny numbers of vetro cars, only around 3000 carb GTS ( according to some recent investigations in Australia, best guess is way less than 100 in this country) etc etc. Later cars are much more available.
Few non-car people on the street these days would even notice a 250 in the traffic (heresy IMHO!) but even grandmas turn to look at the 308. Icon / classic... I think it's both.

 

When a 308 wins best of show at Pebble, call me.

I stand by what I said -- drive the 308 and 360 all you want, mod them to make them better to drive and live with, and stop worrying you may be hurting it's "originality" because it's "classic".

 

Hilarious stuff!
So according to you a car can only be counted a "classic" if it has won best of show?
I guess there is only one Ferrari "classic" then.
So much for the 250 series.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pebble_Beach_Concours_d'Elegance_Best_of_Show_winners

 

Hilarious? What's so hilarious about 308 - 360 owners putting their cars away hoping someday they will be worth something rather than drive them now? If you think a 308 is ever going to reach the status of the low volume hand built cars of the 60's you're not being honest with yourself.

If you don't want to read the entire thread, then please refrain. This has to go down as probably one of the dumbest threads ever on Fchat.

Instead of an intelligent conversation about the real status of the 308- 360 in the history of Ferrari, its a bunch of guys in a circle jerk.

Next lets start a thread that in 20 years the California will be "a classic". Then we can get those owners to post their comments as well.

"How DARE you say the California will never be a classic!"

 

I think the mistake here is in the use of the word 'classic' if whats really being said is the 308 will never achieve the kind of relative value as say a '54 375 MM

In that case, no, it probably wont. But the value of a car isnt what defines classic in my eyes

 

As I said, dumbest thread in the history of Fchat -- arguing over the meaning of words in the English language.

 

LOL!!!! I've only said it for 6 pages AND the thread that made you start this.

Now we go into the absurd.

 

LOL again!

Ok... I'll tell you your definition

Any car that is old is classic. Like a 1975 Yugo is classic or a 1972 Vega is classic. That's your definition. "old" = "classic"

 

I've said it in my first post.

Something that is significant either in its engineering, historical significance, uniqueness of design, or setting a new standard that others copied but never equaled.

The 308 doesn't fit any of those. It is significant that it was the first true mass production V8 with a Ferrari badge and was on a TV show. Not significant enough -- and some would say the beginning of what will soon be 10,000 cars coming out a year from Maranello.

Its an Icon, but will never be considered a classic Ferrari in the way that the Ford Falcon (the basis for the Mustang) will never be considered a classic.

Auburn Speedster or Cord 612 --- classic. Shelby Cobra -- classic.

It's a great car. Isn't that enough for you guys?

 

This thread should be re=named the thread about nothing.

 

No matter what they say the argument anyone has against it being a classic is that they made too many of them. I’ve never really been interested in rarity. There are a lot of rare cars that are crap. If you like rarity go collect coins or stamps. There’s a difference between classic and valuable. There are people that care about rare and valuable and people who don’t. If you buy and sell these cars for a living then you care about rarity and tell your customers too also. If you’re in this for rarity and value the 308 with certain exceptions is the wrong car.

Unless you are buying million dollar cars or you’re a dealer these things aren’t investments. Put your money in the stock market.

 

Hardly. Take a walk through the politics and religion section, I swear some of the posters parents are brother and sister.

 

So I take it a 1943 Plymouth Business Coupe cannot be a classic because it looks pretty much like every other Business Coupe of it's day, and is not significantly different to a 1937 coupe? (Which in turn, doesn't look vastly different to a 1936 Business Coupe! )

A '57 chevy can't be a classic because it's basically just a re-bodied '55 Chevy?

A '68 Mustang can't be a classic because it's just a very mild facelift of a '67 Mustang?

And whilst on the subject of Mustangs, a '69 Boss 429 Mustang can't be a classic because it's basically just a reworked 67/68 Mustang with a bigger engine?

Looking at your criteria for a classic, it appears that the Austin 7 doesn't qualify as a classic, as it was not particularly significant in it's design, it doesn't have any major historical significance (it was just cheap family transport in its day), it was hardly unique (just about every car looked like an Austin 7 back then!), and it's standard was pretty average for the time (has an Austin 7 ever even been allowed into Pebble beach? ). Curiously though, the BMW Dixie, which was basically an Austin 7 built under licence by BMW, does qualify as a classic under your criteria, because it was the first production BMW road car and so has an historical importance! - Now that doesn't seem right!

It should be remembered that styling wise, the 308 GTB led to the 288 GTO (the family resemblance cannot be denied ), and the 288 GTO led to the F40 (via the 288 GTO Evoluzione) - So surely that gives the 308 GTB some historical significance? Without the 308 GTB, chances are, if either the 288 GTO or F40 had still been made, then surely they would have looked completely different?


As for Pebble Beach - That's basically the motoring Worlds snootiest Country Club, looking down their noses at anyone who's car isn't worth hundreds of thousands of Dollars! - They'd rule out the 308 series from competing on market value alone!

 

Pebble beach has more noses in the air then an elephant convention. Without the 308..Ferrari as we know it, would have been out of business. It was and is perhaps the most important production Ferrari the company ever produced.

 

A 308 is the most iconic classic car in the world period.