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Is the header sound different by brand?

Discussion in '360/430' started by channy2, Oct 14, 2017.

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  1. channy2

    channy2 Rookie

    Apr 19, 2017
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    It can be seen that the exhaust line type is different.
    Now my F430 uses the Topspeed header.
    But I don't like the sound. I don't like the sound like AMG.
    If you change to a different brand header, let me know if there is a sound difference! please.
     
  2. Speedracer800

    Speedracer800 Formula Junior

    Jan 16, 2013
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    Almost certainly not just by changing the header. I'm assuming your car has the rest of the exhaust changed as well.. The other components are really where you can change up the noise. Perhaps post some additional information in regards to the "aftermarket" components you have installed currently and from there I'm sure others can offer some suggestions.
     
  3. vvvmd

    vvvmd F1 Rookie
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    There may bea difference in the sound from a 4-2-1 like Capristo and 4-1 design like Fabspeed header blankets and such ,ay make a slight difference as well
     
  4. koop

    koop Formula Junior

    Apr 30, 2011
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    I tried both fabspeed and capristo headers on my scud. I preferred the capristo
     
  5. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

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    Most people prefer the 4-2-1 design because it moves the power band lower in the rev range. You can feel more mid-range torque because there is more. You give up some top rpm power in exchange.

    https://www.redline360.com/garage/4-1-vs-4-2-1-headers-what-is-the-difference-what-makes-more-power

    In my younger days, I really wanted a set of 4-2-1 Holley headers for my street Chevy, but couldn’t afford them. 4-1 headers were more common and cheaper for that car.

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  6. whatheheck

    whatheheck F1 Rookie
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    It depends on what exhaust you have installed and what sound you are after.

    Here's mine with Agency Power Headers and Kline Innovation Exhaust:



    Dan
     
  7. koop

    koop Formula Junior

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    I did notice a bit more midrange power with the capristo 4-2-1 headers vs the fabspeed 4-1. It was subtle though and possibly just in my head.
     
  8. djempire

    djempire Formula Junior

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    Unlikely to change on how it sounds. I have the TS headers and the sound is a bit lower in the frequency scale with stock cats and muffler. I almost always get a positive comment on how it sounds. I will be installing the S Line system over the winter and that frequency will change drastically.
     
  9. Joe@Fabspeed

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    Yes the design of any and all headers affects the sound signature of any car and in particular a flat crank Ferrari 430.

    Other factors also influence and determine the sports car sound and power of these wonderful cars.

    In 2004, over 22 years ago, I designed and engineered and tested over 4 different styles of headers for the Ferrari 430 on the street, race track and DYNO. Before that I designed, engineered, and perfected Ferrari headers for the F355 both the 5.2 and 2.7 injected cars and then moved onto the F360 cars so my engineering team. Fabspeed has the most experience in designed headers for these cars.

    Back the the F430 header and sports car sound signature and power increases.
    . Ultimately the very best header that we found was a 4 into 1 design with an INDY car/ Formula 1 style high velocity merge collector. I personally evaluated various sizes of header tubes, lengths and bends and the very best sports car sound and power were my Fabspeed Motorsport headers that were pioneered over 22 years ago. I got requests from other German and Italian tuners to purchase and private label my Fabspeed Ferrari header line and I said no.


    FYI- there are some terrible Ferrari header knock-offs on the internet with super small primary header tubes (one was actually mentioned above) employing “cheated convoluted bends” that actually hurt power, leak, crack and fail over time. Fabspeed headers for 355 and 360 come with heat shields for alternators and A/C compressors as needed. Fabspeed Motorsport Ferrari headers are the finest construction and feature Equal length primary header tubes, F1/Indy car style high velocity merge collectors and all Fabspeed headers hand welded and backpurged with argon during construction by craftsmen.


    Lastly, thermal blankets will absorb reduce certain sounds and harmonics. I can guarantee you installing Fabspeed headers on any 355, 360, 430 and 458 really wakes up low, midrange and top end performance to redline and compliments any Ferrari OEM factory components and all other aftermarket exhaust systems. The engine simply breathes and volumetric efficiency and scavenging are greatly improved with the Fabspeed Motorsport Original Ferrari header design.

    “My fellow Ferrari enthusiasts- headers require design and engineering and don’t assume that all headers perform and sound the same as headers to the unaided eye…….. simply look like shiny stainless steel tubes that resemble like a bundle of snakes!”

    If any of you Ferrari owners want to cruise by our 25,000sqft facility and check out Ferrari’s equipped with our headers that will open up and whole new dimension of sports car sound and power.


    Joseph Fabiani President


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    www.fabspeed.com


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  10. Zed82

    Zed82 Formula Junior

    Sep 28, 2017
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    Has anyone compared different 4-1 header brands and the sound they produce? Like the OP i suspect that Top Speed sound deeper then other brands. I have also heard Top Speed with S-line and in lower revs it sounds very much like a muscle car.
     
  11. RichardCH

    RichardCH F1 Rookie
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    I have Capristo 4-2-1, there are great
     

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