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Is there a graph to show vintage ferrari prices?

Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by 65 f.i., Sep 27, 2011.

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  1. 65 f.i.

    65 f.i. Karting

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    #1 65 f.i., Sep 27, 2011
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    I am curious if anyone may know of a graph indicating the value of vintage ferrari's as they may relate to world currency value fluctuations?
     
  2. JazzyO

    JazzyO F1 World Champ

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    #2 JazzyO, Sep 27, 2011
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2011
    Only one that I know of is the HAGI F-Index. http://www.historicautogroup.com/

    The graph is published in magazine Octane every 6 months or so. To access it on the HAGI website you need a password, not sure how you get one.

    I have looked at the graph several times and it doesn't tell me much. It's a weighted index on several models, but I don't know which models. One sale of a 250TR can skew the entire index if you ask me. I think it is much more useful to read an old Michael Sheehan column or Ferrari Market Letter to see how prices have changed.

    Incidentally, the Ferrari Market Letter has a price index for each Ferrari model at the back, which supposedly shows the trends based on asking prices. However, I have been checking this against asking prices in the FML itself, and the index doesn't make any sense to me. Generally, prices in the index are far too low. The latest 365BB index says an asking price of $126k when in the same issue there is only a bad example for sale for $142k. For a good 365BB you need far more cash. 308 Fibreglass for $36k? In your dreams - at least in Europe these are $100k. 250 PF Coupe for $150k? Tell me where and I'll buy it! The scruffy one at FJ was already sold and presumably brought more, and in any case is hardly representative for the 250 PF market.


    Onno
     
  3. KenGoldman

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    I also asked about the price guide in FML. They told me that it was based on asking prices.
    I asked them for info on a 330 GTC---which is valued at $204,894 in the latest issue.
    This is a DROP of 1.5% from six months ago.

    But, at Pebble Beach, two sold in auction for over $300,000 each (with premium).
    Has anyone out there seem a 330 GTC with an asking price
    of $200,000 lately?? If you throw out the highest price and the lowest price, you must have some that have sold for $175,000. to balance off the high end prices.

    Where are those cars?? As well, where are the 250 PF Coupes mentioned above at $150,000. I think they must be selling somewhere on another planet !!

    Bottom line--these prices are one man's opinion--but the research is flawed. The best ones I have seen are the prices in Cavallino magazine--where they give a range for cars.

    If you are spending your money, you need to do your homework yourself. People who do not will get into trouble.


    Ken Goldman
     
  4. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Please keep in mind that the prices mentioned in these publications are usually between 4 and 6 months, if not more, behind the actual date. They are old and outdated. This is due to deadlines and lack of instant knowledge, also due to lack of knowledge about real deals. Auction results are just one small part of the entire market and do NOT reflect the real and entire price situation. Naturally, most people will never really hear about the prices achieved in a private deal.

    Marcel Massini
     

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