Is there any harm to charge the battery without removing the cables | FerrariChat

Is there any harm to charge the battery without removing the cables

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by mahlerfree, Jun 4, 2023.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. mahlerfree

    mahlerfree Karting

    Dec 19, 2019
    240
    Is there any harm to charge the battery without removing the positive and negative cables?
    Meaning, to charge the battery in situ. Not a trickle charge, but a real battery charger.

    I understand that its bad that if you jump start the car. How about just charging the battery without starting the car?
     
  2. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

    Aug 22, 2008
    7,083
    Central NJ
    Full Name:
    Dominick
    As long as the key is not in the on position ..you are fine

    Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk
     
  3. raemin

    raemin Formula 3

    Jan 16, 2007
    2,388
    Lyon (FR)
    Full Name:
    R. Emin
    Depending on the type of charger: I do have a ctek, that uses a desulfation process (current spikes), maybe no the best for vintage electronic (ignition, audio, etc...). On a modern car, should not be an issue, except that the modern design is probably damping the current spikes and hence somehow reducing the efficiency of the charging process.

    To be honest I would not bother unless the charger is really delivering a high output (more than 10 amps).
     
  4. Nospinzone

    Nospinzone F1 Veteran

    Jul 1, 2013
    7,808
    Weston, MA
    Full Name:
    Paul
    If you have a shut off switch it won't be an issue.
     
  5. raemin

    raemin Formula 3

    Jan 16, 2007
    2,388
    Lyon (FR)
    Full Name:
    R. Emin
    The switch is not a one fit all solution :

    If the OP has a car that is not supposed to be jump-started one can presume some delicate electronics are involved. Large capacitors do not like to be shut-off and reconnected. On vintage cars, audio amplifier and ignition noise capacitor are very sensitive for sure. Modern cars can be even worse: many components are always on, and may (or may not) endure repetitive current bursts.

    Kill switch used to be standard equipment and were removed for good reason: disconnecting the battery while the car is running can have catastrophic consequences for the onboard electronics. I just learned it the hard way when the lady accidentally bumped the switch (on the 365 it's on the footwell...): the unfiltered alternator ripple was mixed together with the RPM signal which toasted the 365's tachometer (it jumped to the maximum).

    Certified FIA switch do have a built-in resistor that helps mitigate this, but for long term storage you need a secondary switch to cut-off the resistor, which makes it a bit messy. If the OP want to charge with a powerful workshop charger, that's what I would use.
     
    mahlerfree likes this.
  6. Ferrari Tech

    Ferrari Tech Formula 3

    Mar 5, 2010
    1,231
    Georgia
    Full Name:
    Wade Williams
    When I have a car I am working on and will be doing a lot of diagnostic work, I have it on a charger. Key on, key off, checking parameters and errors, I need good battery voltage and a charger keeps it strong. I have never had an issue. I also use a vintage (80s) Schumacher charger. It is not like the modern safety chargers, this thing just charges. Plug it up and it will bring a battery back from the dead. I am pretty sure it would charge a brick if I could hook it up.
     
    mahlerfree and f355spider like this.

Share This Page