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Is this piece supposed to come undone?

Discussion in '308/328' started by Miklas, May 23, 2020 at 1:49 PM.

  1. Miklas

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    I was swapping to a new steering rack today and when I removed the old one I realised that the lower part of the steering column was loose from the rest of the steering column (see pic below).
    This is the very last piece of the steering column that attaches to the steering rack.

    It's splined so it won't rotate on the column but it can slide up and down a bit. Shall it be welded to the column or is it normal that it can slide up and down?


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  2. mike32

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    Was there a pinch bolt in the hole at the end ? The drawings on Eurospares web site give 2 good pictures of the setup
     
  3. thorn

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    It is not welded. There should be a bolt + washer in the pinched end, tightened securely.
     
  4. Miklas

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    Yes, pinch bolt was installed correctly. In the diagram below I've marked in yellow the part that is in the pic in my first post. In the diagram it looks like one piece but on my car it's two pieces.

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  5. Steve Magnusson

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    #5 Steve Magnusson, May 23, 2020 at 9:49 PM
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    As far as I know, part #7:
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    should be a single monolithic part -- looks likes the lower part of yours has separated from the upper part (and should be rewelded in some fashion).

    The reason it's made in two piece is that it would be difficult, and expensive, to make a blind female spline feature. This way (using 2-pieces), the female spline goes all the way thru the lower part in your hand, and the upper part can have a male spline that fits into it -- but then they should then be permanently joined together to make a single part #7.
     
  6. Miklas

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    Thank you Steve, that's what I suspected.

    Can this be welded with a normal inverter welder or does it require something MIG/TIG?
     
  7. mike32

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    Look to see if u can find sign of the original weld, might just be a few spot welds.
     
  8. Miklas

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  9. Steve Magnusson

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    Making small, high-quality tack welds with a large-diameter, flux-coated welding "stick" can be tricky, but would probably be OK. Try an internet search on something like "Tack welding with a stick welder" for some tips/hints if you can't have it MIGed or TIGed.
     
  10. Brian A

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    I bring jobs like this to my friendly neighborhood muffler shop. They MIG day in and day out. For $20 they'll take 5 minutes out of their day to do a job like this for me.
     
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  11. thorn

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    Agreed. It will take longer to drive to a decent shop than it will take the guy to MIG weld it. 3 good contacts and you're done.
     
  12. Miklas

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    Thank you all. I will have a go at stick welding the two pieces together.
     
  13. kcabpilot

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    It's not like your welding body panels, doesn't have to be pretty.
     

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