Is this possible?

Here's another one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-246-GTS-1973-Dino-246-GTS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6212QQihZ009QQitemZ190131215376QQrdZ1

 

the ebay car does look original. i have a magazine article at home that is a story about an all original, lowest mileage dino. it has around 5k miles. it also has chrome out the wazoo.

low mileage cars always make me suspicious.

best and most recent example is the ponder car that was auctioned. search for the thread. see where we started calling bs and see how it ends.

i love the writeup in the most recent scm. it verifyies the condition is pristine and original. huh? they obviously didn't look at the car.

 

They do exist. I have one. Mine has 8,000 original miles. Not in the best of condition for lack of TLC. Sat in a garage for 20 years following the owner's demise.

I helped the owner purchase the car in 1981. I had two Dinos at the time, and he asked me to look at a car and give him an opinion. I inspected the car, which at the time had 3,700 miles on it. We lived in the same town, and he would occasionally drive it (on Sundays). In 1985 he became ill (an older gentleman) and passed away. The car sat with a cover until the family telephoned me asking if I might be interested (two summers ago). I went to see the car, as it had been for 20 years, with 7,900 miles.

It now sits in my garage. I don't dare drive it. Its value is the low mileage and originality. My other Dino, which I restored several times during the past 27 years, is a much nicer car, but not original.

Jim S.

 

as for your question on the wheels, the original casting of that wheel said fiat. i have seen 4 different castings. 2 said fiat (one with larger letters than the other). 1 said dino in the 246 dno script. the last said ferrari. of course there is the really early knock off version which said fiat in bigger letters. according to mike morris book on fiat dinos, the wheel was designed specifically for fiat dino and won a design award in 1967.

 

And that looks like a hell of a car. It should be pretty easy to speak with the original owner(s). -- ask seller for the names. I bought a 12,000 mile car [now 12,750 ] a couple of months ago after chatting with both previous owners. If I'd seen this silver one and it checked out, I would have taken a shot at it for certain. If the price doesn't go up near 200k (maybe not on eBay), there's probably a snake in a tailpipe.

 

And that looks like a hell of a car. Only odd thing is the Daytona seats and no flares --was that an option package in '73? It should be pretty easy to speak with the original owner(s). -- ask seller for the names. I bought a 12,000 mile car [now 12,750 ] a couple of months ago after chatting with both previous owners. If I'd seen this silver one and it checked out, I would have taken a shot at it for certain. If the price doesn't go up near 200k (maybe not on eBay), there's probably a snake in a tailpipe.

 

daytona seats and the flared wheel wells were two different options. they are more often not combined than combined. most people call it the "chairs and flares" option, but this is not correct.

most cars that have the interior redone have had it done with the "chairs" style seats, so be careful. i have seen so many cars advertised with "chairs and flares" that have chairs but have later fitted campagnolo wheels, or even worse, chairs seats and standard wheels.

research what you are buying. sure records are difficult to come by (mrony - you got lucky and it attests to the low mileage/owner status of your car), but use a little common sense. if the car show in the fml or dino register as something other than what it is claimed to be - ask WHY?

 

my car isn't a comparison for low mileage cars, but rather for low owners cars. my car was bought new in L.A. it was traded-back in a couple of months.

Jack M. bought the car in late 74 and owned the car for 15 years. in late 89, he sold the car to jerry moore, here in houston, who flipped the car for auction in less than a month. Larry Goldrich bought the car at auction in 1990. When he passed away, the car was left to his son Andrew (the real reason he bought the car to begin with was for his son). I bought the car form andrew.

even given it has "HIGH" miles at 50k, it still is a cra that makes sense.

Forget the steering wheel in the photo, i put that on to look better than the original, but other thna that, the car is original. the out seat bolsters were replaced as were the door panels and trunk carpets, but given the love/abuse/enjoyment the car has seen, it makes sense.

what gets me are the cars that are so obvious in there state that people believe the milegae claims. the best example is the ponder car,

by the point a car is 30-40 years old, most of it should look that way - if it is claimed to be original. Joan rivers makes no bones about her updates, it make smne wonder why sellers feel they have to hide them and buyers are willing to ignore them on supposedly "original" cars.

 

once again, i fogot the photo's:
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This is correct- Daytona seats were an entirely separate option from the Campy wheels/flared fenders. The vast majority of cars with flares/Campy wheels were "loaded" and also had Daytona seats, but the reverse is not true- lots of cars had the seats but not the flares. The real rarity is a GT with flares, as almost all the flared-fender cars were GTSs.

 

asking price off of ebay is $229k

 

dave,

they are campagnolo wheels, which used for the flared dino cars

 

These are not correct for the 246 GTS and were probably the Campagnolo Elektron wheels which were optional for the BMW 2002. Although quite similar, these are missing the "Dino" script in the rim located opposite to "Campagnolo"