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  1. velocetwo

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    This P538 Lavost is a proper P538, built with special chassis by Buizzarrini in the "70" , radiators in the back sides.
     
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    Pascal,

    It seems to me that any illicit activity in the Bizzarrini/Iso car world could also lead to illicit cars that stay in Europe and are being sold by unscrupulous people who do not need to be concerned about US customs because they sell the cars in Europe.

    Is this not a possibility? This seems like a much bigger potential problem because there are so many Bizziarrini/Iso cars in Europe and so very few are shipped to the US.

    What do you think about illicit activity in the Bizzarrini/Iso car world in Europe?
     
  4. velocetwo

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    It had to be made in the sixties?
     
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    I don t known any FAKE P538 built in 2007 by Giotto ( badly welded chassis + some polyester) and claim to be built in 1965 like Ekstein did ( proofs have been show that he did it ), sold in Europe as all the P538 was sold to USA because order by Gerd , concerning the replica ISO A3C, they are not advertise in Europe even if they are built in Italy , which explain that the illicit business target the USA. Why theses FAKE REPLICA are not show in Padova show ? to try to find European customers ? Why, they only target USA to sell them.
    The answer is obvious
     
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    Why do you think as the VIM are BO 226?
     
  7. GIOTTO

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    It's just a guess... But if you have discovered the car, maybe know the VIN ?
     
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    I ve said that "they are not advertise in Europe" the only ads thet everybody have seen is in USA.
    eckos1 = Gerd Ekstein himself
    Now that you are here, explain to us please the importation that you did with false chassis number, false year of construction etc
    The photo is the car that you import as Bizzarrini P538 built 1965 when the car was built in 1999 by Luigi Moreschi
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    The car had a number 006 as the sixt car built by Gilberto Pannizza in 1999, and it is very well known that you have declare on the Iso forum that you had restored the car with "original parts from the 65".
    I known already your answer, you are going to tell us that the car that you import is not this one...then my next question is, please tell us where is the replica P538 LM ( Luigi Moreschi) .
    I known the answer already, you are going to tell us that thew car is still in Italy or that you sold it..
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    I am very impressed indeed this is the right number
     
  13. GIOTTO

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    So the same car in posts #73 & #80. Can we see more photos please?
     
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    I mean VIN: BO 226
     
  15. velocetwo

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    On post 109 that looks like Andrea Zagato with his wife Marella Rivolta Zagato.
     
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    See sides exhaust !
     
  19. GIOTTO

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    I think #0226 was car n°1 at Zeltweg and car n°8 was #0222.
     
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    Unfortunatelly, I don't have access to the different documents for these cars and my comments are only based on observations and comparison of the different photos.
    If I compare car n°3 (#0222) at Le Mans with car n°8 at Zeltweg, I see not much differences. But if I compare the Le Mans car n°3 with car n°1 at Zeltweg, I see some differences. Bizzarrini badge not at the same place, side turn indicators not at the same place, etc. So, maybe it's possible that there is a confusion. We found many mistakes between different Ferrari's in the last years. Again, it's only a guess.
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    Yahoo! Groups

    Here everybody can see that Gerd declare that he bought the Fake P538 from Panizza, and it s the car that we see on the photos, car built in 1999 and declared to be built in 1965 to be imported in USA
     
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    Statement from GERD

    > The car I own is, to the best of my knowledge, P 578-006. The car
    has
    > a Bizzarrini designed front end and a partly Pantera rear end with
    a
    > Pantera ZF 5-speed.
    > In 2001 the engine was changed to the 8.2 L CanAm one. I have the
    > invoices. The former owner was Mr. Panizza who sold the car to
    > me in 2006. This is the information I received first hand.
    >
    > (Jack:) When I visited mr. Panizza September 26th last year he told
    me that he built this car. Again proof of the fact that statements by
    the owners of the cars are not always correct or complet
    Yahoo! Groups

    A fews years ago, Gerd declare on the Varedo Group on Yahoo that He bought a P578-006 , he declare that it was own by Panizza with a Can Am 8.2 Liter ( the car from Coys Auction and correctly describe as a interpretation, a fake, a replica built by Luigi Moreschi) and the name of the car was changed from P578 -006 to P538-006.
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