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Jacking Up A 458

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by glennglenn, Mar 31, 2013.

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  1. glennglenn

    glennglenn Rookie

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    I want to jack up my 458, anyone know where the rear jacking points are.
     
  2. leead1

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    #2 leead1, Mar 31, 2013
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    I would ask a dealer. I would look at my manual but the car is in my storage area. I use my Orlando dealer to come and get the car or fix a flat. I have bought three F cars from them and know them well and the dealer is great. I would call and ask the dealer. If you look at the chasis at the rear you will see the strength lift points I suspect. To be honest I have never looked.

    Be careful on this web site! There are alot of nice people on this site some are even dealers but there are also kids who are just playing. It can be hard to know who you are talking to if you do not have an idea of the correct answer.

    They try to police this forum and I have seen several banned for a little time. But they come back. All forums have the same problem.

    Good luck :)

    Lee
     
  3. not4one

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    As I recall from lifting mine (to put on the spacers), there are round reinforced metal areas (disc like in shape) a few inches behind the front wheels and a few inches under when looking from the side. At the rear the same point is FORWARD of the rear wheels. You need to get on the floor and look/feel around...but they are obvious once you find them. I used a compact 1.5 ton floor jack (the type on small wheels) and had no trouble using those points.
     
  4. garak

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    #4 garak, May 28, 2015
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    Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I searched and didn't find anything definitive on this.

    Are these the jacking points for the 458?
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  5. rockitman

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    It's impossible to tell by the pictures in the manual. I am assuming that is the rear jack point where the hole is. There is a similar hole very close to the front wheel well. I can't imagine there is any other option. Seems most people here take the car to the shop. Confrmation by someone who has lifted their 458 would be appreciated.
     
  6. Jasone

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    I jack mine all the time, that is the correct spot.
     
  7. rockitman

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    Thanks Jasone.
     
  8. luvair

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  9. abstamaria

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    Porsche 911s, or at least from the 993 on, have special metal lifting pads that fit into holes in the jacking points. One then positions the lift or jack so they contact those removable pads. Luvair's attachment suggest there are similar pads - bushes - that fit in the holes, one shown in garak's photo above.

    I have a two-post lift at home and was wondering how to lift the 458.

    Best,

    Andy
     
  10. justthebest

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    Many M-B AMGs also have specific inserts to make a large enough area (drink coaster size) to properly jack with any equipment.
     
  11. maxvonauto

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    The rears are a pain. You'll need a low profile long nose jack to get that far under the car without hitting the skirts. Plus, the hard points are recessed a bit so you'll need a small block of wood on top of the jack pad. The only way I was able to get my std floor jack to work was to use a scissor jack first to gain some clearance for the floor jack.
    Frankly, there's not much you can do other than service the wheels/brake pads, etc. The aero panels virtually cover every square inch under the car. You'd think Ferrari would have made plugs under the various drains so you can change trans and engine oil without dropping the diffuser and engine pan (which is a major PITA).
     
  12. MuratC

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    Like Mark said, I also use 2 floor jacks. I first raise the front a bit and then slide the second jack underneath for the rear. Otherwise if I try to raise the rear first, the arm of the jack touches the side skirts.
     
  13. luvair

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    I'm familiar the chassis holes with the Porsches, and have special hockey type pucks that make the Porsche lift points to easily identifiable and importantly, use of the lift.

    That said, I didn't see the same on my 458. I have a Rotary two post lift, and even purchased the thinner arms for a low profile sports car. It still was not thin enough, so needed to purchase race ramps to raise the car b4 finding the jack points. At least to me, its still a bit of challenge as my 458 has CF rocker panels, and the clearance is still very tight. What helped me some was going to y dealer and visibly seeing the jacking points.
     
  14. abstamaria

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    The pages you posted are from a workshop manual, Luvair? I wonder if Ferrari sells those "bushes" or "bushings" for lifting.

    Andy
     
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    #16 abstamaria, Aug 7, 2015
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    I took this photo to show how the Porsche items look. The tabs fit into holesin the chassis. I wonder if I can modify these to fit my 458.
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  17. rockitman

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    As far as getting the jack under the rear points without hitting the aero skirts, it might be helpful to drive the car up on 2x10" planks too get the extra clearence. That is what I am going to do if I need to remove the wheels.
     
  18. rockitman

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    I wonder if the Ferrari dealer can order the jack pad/pin they use on their lifts for the 458 ? I would think one could use that same pad/pin set up on a floor jack.
     
  19. luvair

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    #19 luvair, Aug 7, 2015
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    I don't think so. My dealer and I use plan hockey pucks, and they work well.

    Car on lift is not a Ferrari, but provides idea how I use the hockey pucks on my Rotary lift.
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  20. luvair

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    I have the same for my 911. But could not retrofit for the 458 without ruining them for the 911. Pls see my post b4 this, as plain hockey pucks work well, and do not overlap to non jacking points.
     
  21. rockitman

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    I have a healthy supply of hockey pucks I used on my 911. I also have low profile jack point stands that have a smaller diameter 1/4" thick hard rubber disc that looks like it will fit inside the under tray surrounding the jack point area....if a hockey puck is too wide. I have not jacked the car (458) up yet to know for sure.
    http://www.jackpointjackstands.com
     
  22. abstamaria

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    I must order hockey pucks. l live in the tropics, so they don't exist here.
     
  23. Drifting

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    I don't think people are referring to actual hockey pucks that you would play hockey with, just that they look like hockey pucks.
     
  24. rockitman

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    I use real hockey pucks...very hard rubber and work well. They don't deform much under the weight load.
     
  25. luvair

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    Me too. Been using real hockey. Work great.
     

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