Jaguar XJ MY2010: stunning but needs a V12

Agreed its a break through model, but we need an entry level engine, plus built in reliability re the miscellanous parts. I can forsee the new instrument panel will be a night mare down the road. The issue with Jaguars are they look great, handle well and oozng real luxury. The letdown is when the electrical gremlins start acting up after a few months, or after the warranty expired. That is why the residual values are so poor worldwide as compared to MB/BMW/Lexus!!

 

Im sorry, but I have to disagree with what you are saying for the most part.

You are forgetting a massively significant figure... TORQUE!!!!!!!

That wonderful BMW m5 engine is great in theory, but is also the leading reason why BMW has lost its superiority in the "super sedan" category. It only makes 380 ft-lbs of torque and its like at 6k rpm. Very unusable, especially on a heavy car such as the BMW. The supercharged mercedes and even the new 63 amgs make massively more torque and thats why BMW hasn't reined supreme as it has in years past. It only puts out 3 more ft-lbs of torque than the 550i. But again, the 550 makes more usable torque. you don't have to rev the nuts off of it.

That supercharged jag engine puts out 460 or so at a much lower rpm and over a much larger power band.

Concerning light weight luxury cars and there weight disappointing you... they are luxury cars. Not carbon fiber monocoque sports cars. They are designed to be luxurious, have tons of rear seat room (foot rest etc...) To make them out of carbon-fiber etc would be so extremely expensive and a gigantic waste. These are cars that spend there time shuttling ceo's down wall street by chauffeurs. For the driving experience, a person would pick a 5 series or an e class etc... for the driver involvement. This new jag is a 7 series, and S class fighter. These cars have great acceleration but expecting great race track characteristics out of them is just ludicrous

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I wouldn't expect more than 8 cylinders from Jaguar any time soon, if ever.

They built more 12 cylinder engines than any other company but that was then and this is now. 50% more moving parts, bigger, heavier, less efficient than the engines of today.

Jaguar isn't Lamborghini and their cache' isn't so much tied to a particular engine configuration. I doubt most buyers will ever look under the "bonnet".

 

also, if anything... a straight 6 is more there heritage than anything. however, id rather see jag stick around then produce a 12 cylinder engine that prices the car out of the market.

 

I agree. Jaguars V12 is a ***** cat. It just looks impressive.