Yes- we did - those may have been placed into the round filing bin.. That was a part of the testing - we did find it necessary to run it a bit on the richer side on the lower end, and then lean it out to a close but still slightly rich A/F ratio for the rest of the rpm range, up to 7100 - due to the best efforts in jetting combination. Rev limiter kicks in at 7000. Load bearing dyno with sporadic pavement testing --Jason
I'm curious if anyone out there with a Jalpa also has a BMW M1 - it's been thought they may share some common traits..
first of all ive never driven a M1..so most of this is conjecture. although the bmw m1 was to be built by lamborghini (code name E26) and they did most of the R&D work, i dont think they have a lot in common technically. many differences: deschamps vs gioguaro, stanzini/alfieri vs dallara, transverse vs longitude, tube frame vs unitbody, wishbone/trailing arms vs macpherson, iron I-6 vs alloy V8 , coupe vs targa, fiberglass vs steel, injection vs carbs the closes car i can think of is a pantera, same zf gearbox, designer dallara, layout longitude. the performance, power and weight are comparable too from the road test ive read they are fantastic drives and are starting to be fairly sought after. price has doubled in the last 5-7 years
Interesting Comparison - This is meant just as a comparison of the philosophy in each - no intention of stating in any way or implying, more or less for either / or... BMW M1 Production: 455 cars (399 road, 56 race) Cylinders: 6 in-line, mid mounted Capacity: 3453cc Power: 277hp @ 6500rpm Torque: 243lb @ 5000rpm Weight: 3175lb Max Speed: 162mph Acceleration: 0-100kmh(62mph) in 5.6sec Fuel Consumption: 14.4mpg 1st gear ratio : 2,420 2nd gear ratio : 1,610 3rd gear ratio : 1,140 4th gear ratio : 0,846 5th gear ratio : 0,704 Rev. gear ratio : 2,860 Final drive ratio : 4,220 Front Wheels/Tires: Alloy 7x16 205/55 VR16 Rear Wheels/Tires: Alloy 8x16 225/50 VR 16 Engine Management System: Kugelfischer-Bosch Mechanical injection Brake Disc diameter, front (mm) 300 Brake Disc diameter, rear (mm) 297 Wheelbase 2560 mm Track, front (mm) 1550 ( In ProCar Trim 1345) Track, rear (mm) 1576 ( In ProCar Trim 1578) Overall length : 4360mm Overall width : 1922 mm Overall height : 1140 mm Ground clearance: 125 ------------------------------------------------------- L. Jalpa Production: 420 Cylinders: 8 90degree, mid mounted Capacity: 3485 cc Power: 255 bhp at 7000 rpm Torque: 231 lbs.ft. at 3500 rpm Weight: 3 329lb Max Speed: 146 Acceleration: 0-100kmh(62mph) in 7 sec Fuel Consumption: 14.5 mpg 1st gear ratio : 2.933:1 2nd gear ratio : 2.105:1 3rd gear ratio : 1.565:1 4th gear ratio : 1.185:1 5th gear ratio : 0.870:1 Rev. gear ratio : 2.775:1 Final drive ratio : 4.00:1 Front Wheels/Tires: Alloy 7 x 16 inch 205/55 VR 16 Rear Wheels/Tires: Alloy 7.5 x 16 inch 225/50 VR 16. Engine Management System: Weber Brake Disc diameter, front (mm) 274 mm Brake Disc diameter, rear (mm) 274 mm Wheelbase: 2451 mm Track, front (mm) 1500 mm Track, rear (mm) 1554 mm Overall length : 4330 mm Overall width : 1880 mm Overall height : 1140 mm Ground clearance : 127 mm Again - meant only as a comparison on the thought process going on / in and of the design with each auto..
This was in attendance at our Italian Concours this year. What a car! Mike Image Unavailable, Please Login
that m1 used to be in our area before it was sold. it a pretty butchered up version of the original car. it would be nice to bring it back to its original state or do a procar replica
I was curious if anyone has seen or done other in depth testing with the Lamborghini V-8? With the usual 'magic number' of 100 hp per liter, it seems like there should be a few others who have tried to get the V-8 there..
Does anyone know if these are the same or will work with the Urraco P250? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lamborghini-Jalpa-Front-Strut-Mounts_W0QQitemZ160385446699QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2557b7b32b
RVosari in CT has done some tuning on a P300 motor. new pistons, rods, were some of the detail i remember. i think he got 280 or so out of it. pretty respectable for a 3 liter its probably harder to get 100hp/litter with a 3.5 longer stroke motor.
Can anyone tell me why our cars are so "reasonably" priced? I have seen them priced anywhere from 30k-45k USD. The way I see it, they are so rare that they should be much more valuable. I think they are much more attractive, than earlier models like the Jarama and Espada. Wherever I go, people snap pictures and gravitate to the car, even when there are newer and much costlier cars around. I don't get it. It seems as though everyone loves the car, but no one wants to own it, so it has to have a bargain price to attract owners. Maybe I'm just in grouchy mood. I apologize if I offended anyone. But I'm not going to delete this post, in the hopes that someone might provide some great insight. Kevin 1985 Jalpa red
as a former jalpa owner (and as a jalpa lover!) i think they are a good buy at today prices, they could go up something but hardly MUCH imo and i think for some reasons, like: - jalpa cost almost as a much as a countach to restore-upkeep - the car is not near as fast as a countach - the car is not as mitical or looks as good as a countach so when you think you can still find good driver FI QVs in the 90k$, it would makes no sense to buy a jalpa at 50k$ or more...this keep the value of good cars in the 40k$ or so.. i think if the "regular" countach value will go up (and it will imo) the jalpa value will somewhat follow
Hey, Urraco cars in the 1980s were even worse for re-sale value, as a former P250S owner I can assure you. As Emilio said, the upkeep costs are significant and any ground up restoration is an "act of love" because you will not ever have a return on investment. None-the-less 8 cylinder Lambos are fun and offer exceptionally good handling.
The reason they are not expensive is the 8 cylinder engine. If it had a 12 cylinder it would be worth a good bit more. If you are fair, performance times match or beat many other exotics of the time. They are extremely rare, most have never seen one. I have seen two & one of them is mine. I have had more than a few comments , asking if that was a model that came before the Countach (ok to be fair, I have been ask if it was a Diablo several times). Most have never seen a Lamborghini, so I guess it catches them off guard. A Jalpa will draw far more attention than a TR or many other exotic cars. IMO they look so much better than a Espada, Jarma, and even a Islero (I like them all, just my preference). It's the 12 cylinder.
you are correct the V12 is one of the reasons but it is not all there... an espada is not worth more than a jalpa in Europe...may be is less in the same conditions the jarama is around the same or slightly more than a jalpa the islero is more expensive, but it is RARE and has pretty nice shape that is appealing to many a silhouette is worth 50k euro or even more for a perfect one it is worth more than espada or jarama and still a V8, it is REALLY awesome looking inside-out and RARE
I obtained the enclosed message. An enthusiast is looking for a Jalpa. Can you try and help out the potential Jalpa buyer with any information ? Thanks. ________ I was wondering if anyone in your club had a lamborghini jalpa? I have been looking at them online for a while now but one of my friends told me that I shouldn't because I would not be able to fit in them. In reality this friend has no idea because he doesn't have one. So I was wondering if anyone in this club has one. I'm 6'6" so I could see me not being able to fit into an older sports car like the jalpa.
I am 6' 1" and wear size 12 shoes. I found the Jalpa to have PLENTY of headroom!!! I had no issues of fitting in it at all. I wore driving shoes, so I didn't have any problems with my feet hitting multiple pedals at the same time either. Mike
Again a Lambo offered by Gullwing, sitting in the storage for the last fifteen years http://www.gullwingmotorcars.com/inv.php?action=display&autoID=1132 Have they found a warehouse full of neglected Lambo's somewhere? Any idea which one this could be?
puuh, if this is an excellent car, what would a running example not having been in storage for 15 years be? Can someone call them for the VIN? From the leather piping it looks like a young one.
Stay away. Unless money is no object. This is a total restoration that will cost as much as 2 nice examples.
Emilio, I agree with your explanations and I will also point the finger on the fact people looking for a rear V8 mid engine are also thinking about the myth "308 GTS" from the TV serie icon "Magnum's Ferrari" that is also really affordable... and unfortunatelly keeps Jalpa price low !!!
