Jim Spiro ex F50 at Copart

I watched a video last year a driver on a race track in Finland who passed out from carbon monoxide poisoning. There was so much built up inside the car that it actually created a film on the inside of the windows before he was completely out of it. You can watch it here if interested:

Carbon monoxide nearly costs this track day racer his life - Autoblog

Maybe I am ignorant of the dangers, but I still find it pretty difficult to believe that could occur in a car like the F50 without the roof on to the point of causing an accident.

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Firstly the exhaust pipe crack was probably used as an excuse, from this sort of impact I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up cracking therefore that could form a basis for CO poisoning etc...

Secondly, all the insurance company has to do is look up videos of this 'Black F50' guy driving in New York and they will come to one conclusion that many others here already have...

Just saying...

 

It may be something else like reckless driving and the exhaust may not have been leaking before the crash, but certainly CO levels can build up inside an open vehicle. Air that is not moving is at a higher pressure than air that is moving, all other things being equal. That means the driver is sitting in a cocoon of relatively still air even in an open car. And open cars are designed to keep still air in the cockpit, to prevent buffeting and wind noise and maintain the mistress' expensive hairdo. So, CO seeping into an open cockpit environment can and will sit there and gain in concentration. The rate at which it is expelled outside the car will easily become less than the rate at which it accumulates at even very small leakage/seepage rates.

As for the legal mumbo jumbo cited above, it's all down to the presentation and the jury and the weather and a whole host of intangible factors. That's why America "loves" its lawyers and that's why poor black people get the exact same "justice" as rich white folk!

 

Looks like a good parts car.

 

I would say that was a sub 20 mph collision with a solid object such as a tree, probably under breaking from a much higher speed.

It does not take a lot of speed to cause such damage when the object is solid and does not move

Agree about the monoxide thing, people who commit suicide by that method have to have the engine running for some time and all ventilation etc closed.

that car will live again and very soon

 

The CO story is true; dude is lucky to be alive. Thankfully and miraculously, he's okay.

I weep for the infamous 'F50K' and hope that someone will rebuild it. Jim, how about a P4/50?

 

It would be a perfect platform for a one off.

 

If you wanna do a Kickstarter, I can pledge $100.

 

thank you for confriming

 

Quite a coincidence for the ONLY example of an F50 having a severe CO leak into the [open] cockpit just happens to be the same guy who has a handful of videos of him driving like a jackass all over Pennsylvania. Also quite coincidental that a car as meticulously maintained would have such a catastrophic failure, read the service records here: http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/cardetail.php?reqcardir=FE-F50-104799

Also: the Engine and exhaust are behind the driver, "enclosed" in a mesh-backed clam shell (see photo). There's nowhere for CO to build up.
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Disco dash aside, the last analog super-12.

Might be cool to have the factory redo w/F50 GT bodywork in black ...

 

Go for it.

 

And if, because Certs is two mints in one, and so it is "not possible" to have a factory road-going F50 GT - a Zagato take could be interesting ...

 

Just don't claim to be a former Le Mans winner after all the work is done and things should be okay.

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wowzers.

 

Have you seen, how often it was removed and reinstalled?

Heard of one Japanese F50 on which the Tubi Header had a crack and the different new header also cracked...

 

Someone is going to get a great project with this thing. Wish I could.....

 

Carbon fiber can be repaired its not an impossible feat.

Bid is up to 95k

 

Yes, however, structural carbon repair is much more debatable.

 

when, in fact, I'm Lamborghini's wonder boy of sales?

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipgJ13hB2-I]Ferrari F50 flying over bridge in NYC - YouTube[/ame]

 

If and when its actually fixed what do you guys think its actually worth with a branded title?

 

it's one of four black F50s....assuming it's repaired correctly, probably won't hurt its value much.

how many $10mm+ Ferraris at one point were smashed into a wall at a racetrack and repaired?

 

I would probably disagree that this tub is scrap, from the photos alone.

We looked at acquiring an LMP1 car, and one of the questions we had was what would happen if we pranged the tub. We were assured (and then reassured) by those in the industry that tub damage can now be more than adequately repaired. Easier if you have the tub molds, but even without them, the tub can be scanned and patterned, if necessary.

As vendors become more familiar with and adept at using the materials and technologies, their capabilities expand. I've seen some repairs to CF that I didn't think possible.

CW

 

An accident at the hands of what seems to be a careless individual doesn't have quite the same mystique as in-period racing damage. I agree that as time progresses the likely impact of this impact on the cars value will lessen, but most buyers would rather acquire a non-story car (when the story is like this) if they can.

Hopefully someone saves this one - its the first black F50 I ever had the good fortune to see.

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