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JPM is an ... SPOILER

Discussion in 'Other Racing' started by Brian C. Stradale, May 30, 2004.

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  1. Brian C. Stradale

    Brian C. Stradale F1 Rookie
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    JPM is an absolute idiot. He'll never learn! He constantly comes into corners too hot... locks them up... and slides to the outside. Doing that sometimes works out for him if the other driver chooses to bail rather than get creamed... more often it allows him to pass for a moment, only to be re-passed as he misses track-out... but then sometimes its just suicidal...

    Coming in way too hot in the middle of traffic at turn one?!?!? What an idiot!! Glad he chose to ram his own teammate rather than driving up Rubens butt.

    JPM has good car control, but is clueless as a racer. He's not good at passing... he's just overly aggressive... sometimes it works... sometimes it doesn't but he survives... sometimes it blows up.

    Looks like he and Mclaren deserve each other.

    Fortunately for us Ferrari fans, if Mclaren doesn't keep Kimi from succeeding, then they'll have JPM to take Kimi out.
     
  2. Brian C. Stradale

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    Oh, and what's with the dumb@$$ announcer declaring that nobody is better with cold tires than JPM... stated not too long after watching MS drive off and leave everyone on his cold tires while at the same time JPM was locking up his cold tires and taking out his own teammate?? Do these guys think at all before they blabber away?
     
  3. beast

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    Brian,

    I agree the JPM is a the horses A$$ of F1... As for McLaren deserving each other??????? I would have to say lets send JPM back to the small leauges.... Lets send him to NECKCAR so he can bump and bang WWF style and flap his jaw all he wants ;)

    Beast
     
  4. tifosi12

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    Brian, what happened to your usual calm and collectedness?

    I like JPM for bringing a bit of action into an otherwise predictable show. Sure his 1st corner move was stupid, but hey, at least the guy is trying. I rather have some aggressive drivers than just follow the leader sheep.

    Big congrats to Fisico. I'm getting a kick out of Sauber having twice the points of Mc Laren. At least for now.

    As far as Ferrari goes: Well, they can close shop at the last European GP. No need to even go to Japan or Interlagos. Title will be safe in the bank.
     
  5. beast

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    Andreas,

    I wonder if this is what Max and Bernie had in mind for cutting costs?? :D

    Rob
     
  6. tifosi12

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    LOL.

    I always thought the cutting cost idea a) doesn't work and b) is not what F1 is about anyway. Make racing more interesting, regardless of costs.

    As far as Bernie is concerned: He will take the position, that thanks to the new points system the championship will go down to the wire. At least mathematically. Take a wild guess who of the two Ferrari drivers will get the title? The WC for all intents and purposes will be over come Monza.
     
  7. aawil

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    Look like he ran out of talent there.:)In all honestly it's a problem that happens alot in my racing league.There's always one or two guys trying that late braking stuff to gain a position or two on the start.Not to mention the guys up front sometimes take it easy to get through the forst corner.It's a recipe for disaster.
     
  8. Gilles27

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    Hmmm...perhaps we need an entire section on this board dedicated solely towards venting against Montoya. I'll allow that he went into the first corner too hot, which wasn't the best move, but he wasn't the only driver to do so. His just turned out the worst, and fortunately it was Ralf he hit, who you'll notice on replay went in a little hot himself. BUT, if JPM is an idiot for what he did today, then you have to reserve the same judgement for Michael for his actions in the tunnel at Monaco.
     
  9. Gatorrari

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    I think those of you who own Mercedes better keep an eye on your engines.....

    And now why is it always Sato's Honda engine that blows up, while Button has a perfect finishing record?
     
  10. Tifoso1

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    Bring excitment to the races is one thing, to wipe out two other drivers with a idiotic move is another. Ask RS and CD how "exciting" they think JPM's move was? There are intelligent and brilliant passes, and there are something that is just plain and simple reckelessness. Just like RB said about TS's move on him, TS is faster, and will probably be able to pass RB eventually, that move he make was not at the right place nor the right time. TS is somewhat of an rookie, but not so with JPM.
     
  11. Tifoso1

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    One other thing, am I the only one thinking that they need to do something about the pit exit? It seems to me that there were more than just a few incidences that cars already on he circuit could have been taken out by cars exiting the pits as some drivers would attemp a pass at that very corner. To be beaten by a race move is one thing, to be taken out by someone crushing into you is another. Thoughts?
     
  12. Brian C. Stradale

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    The cheapest solution would be to continue the white pit-lane stripe down thru the apex of the turn, preventing the drivers from foolishly trying to whip by from the inside to track-out while a faster car is coming from the main track towards the same track-out. As it is, its almost designed to fool drivers into a wreck...

    The driver on-track feels he has the right to the racing line over the slower driver still in pit lane... the driver in pit-lane is "ahead" of the driver on-track and aligned at the apex (though a very early apex) and thus naturally feels he has a right to the line... the early-apex line and the normal to late apex line cross a bit before track-out (too late to do much adjustment)...

    a sure recipe for major incidents!

    They need to force the pit-lane driver to stay down at the corner until past the late apex point such that their track-out is beyond and/or inside the normal track-out.
     
  13. F1racer

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    Good question.. its either his car is not good (remember last year..Button had the better car and Jacques had to one that always had problems.)
    Or....some people think that Sato is over revving his car.
     
  14. Brian C. Stradale

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    Did I sound angry? I was just laughing at the stupid comment.

    Or was it that I used foul language? LOL!
     
  15. F1racer

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    JPM had a opportunity to put RS out the track so he did it. He's was jealous that Ralf was a bit in front of him.
    Now the poor Kimi will have to deal with him next year.
     
  16. tifosi12

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    Nah, I was just surprised to see an emotional statement coming from a level headed guy like you. Normally it is me who makes the emotional comment and gets it wrong by that.

    However it goes to make my and Gilles27's point: What would be F1 without JPM? At least the guy gives us every race something to yap about.

    I agree with Anthony C.: That pit exit should be on the second straight, after the first turn. However as far as entertainment is concerned, the pit exit is exactly where I like it to be...
    :)
     
  17. F1racer

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    I think the reason why Sato blew up his engine (today) was because of the pit stop he had to make (broken front wing)
    When the drivers make pit stops the engine temperature shoots up rapidly.
    Example: The last 2 races KR engine blew up right after his 1st pit stop.
     
  18. Strasse

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    Montoya's car setup for Canadian F1:
     
  19. Strasse

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    Oh please. Did you actually see Moantoya raise his hand in protest after he crashed into his teammate, like some great injustice was done against him? That said it all right there.

    He is an idiot.
     
  20. davel

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    Just as Rubens said in the press conference------> SATO....his move....AMATEUR!!!! Justice was served after his motor blew! He jumps the start at Monaco bumps Michael, noses into the fray after and almost takes out Button. SATO------> IDIOT AFTER TODAY's dumbass move!!!
     
  21. Furby

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    Ahh geez, why does the mclaren keep blowing up? Poor Raikkonen!
    It's funny how Coulthard just keeps smiling after the engine blows up... He's getting used to it... :D
     
  22. vince308

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    Montoya, always Montoya, 'the Kamikaze'....

    After Monaco it was Michael's fault, and now ?.. He is a looser, he will never say it was his fault.

    As i told before, if they don't calm him down, someday he will kill somebody.....
     
  23. steve2814

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    I thought this was a really exciting race to watch, there was much more passing than anywhere else, alot more battles for position. I think that the pit lane exit contributed to the excitement.

    Also, Montoya is an idiot, pure and simple. He locks up his fronts, smacks Ralf, not once, but twice, and it ends up taking not only Ralf, but da Matta out of the race, while JPM goes off almost undamaged.
     
  24. 62 250 GTO

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    Yeah, this, again. jm drives into the back of MS, the race leader, while being a lap down, under caution. Yeah that's the same as jm wrecking his own team mate on the 1st turn of a race. Come on guys, let it die. Stab it if you have to, just make sure it's dead!

    Here's to happier times! Cheers!
    {Now let me bash jm for a few days for being a to to tool}
     
  25. 62 250 GTO

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    I'm sure you are all bright men. How much energy did jm put through RS's car each time he hit him? Then he sort of pushed RS out of the way and then poor CD was taken out too. jm must have had some serious speed going into that turn. But then again, it's hard to scrub speed when you don't know how or where to use the brakes.
     

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