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Discussion in '308/328' started by qedqeq, Jun 30, 2015.

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  1. Bullittm3

    Bullittm3 Formula Junior

    Oct 9, 2013
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    Brad
    Keep the 328. In a year from now, see how much it has appreciated compared to the 348. BTW, the rare color combination, which looks GREAT BTW, IS a factor when considering the sale price. That guy is a snake oil salesman.
     
  2. wildcat326

    wildcat326 Formula 3

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    Never owned or driven a 348, but LOVED the look of the spider back in the day, and watched/read all the production-period reviews and have since followed what owners on this forum have to say about maintenance. From a birds-eye perspective, there is some consensus that the 328 is the most "bulletproof" modern/classic Ferrari, and that the 348 one of the most nightmarish. There is a Youtube video showing a 348 major service. Watch that for a half hour (it's broken up into multiple parts), then buy a nice Burago model, and go home and hug your 328.
     
  3. qedqeq

    qedqeq Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2015
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    Hahahahahahaha, good one, LOLOL
     
  4. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    It already is.
     
  5. R.Robot

    R.Robot Formula Junior

    Nov 7, 2010
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    La Quinta CA.
    Your car is stunning and can't be matched.
     
  6. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    May 4, 2001
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    Boy, that guy that wants it is gonna hate FChat after today
     
  7. rob

    rob F1 Rookie

    May 22, 2002
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    IMO how much cash he is putting up makes a big difference and also whether or not you are in need of a little cash and also are you interested in a 348? A tb is rarer than a Ts just like a gtb is rarer than a gtsi. You may want to post a similar thread in the 348 section.
     
  8. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The 348 could be a money pit too - canceling out the cash in of the deal in a hurry. Unless I just wanted a 348 or you are a dealer, I don't see this as a really great idea.

    In other words, if you want my car, pay me just in money and keep your trade ins. But that's just me
     
  9. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    It actually depends if you look at production figures overall, or numbers imported in the USA.

    328 production figures are 1344 GTBs and 6068 GTSs. So slightly more than 4 "S" for each "B"
    348 production figures are 2894 TB and 4228 TS: about 1,5 TS for each TB.

    Compared to their Targa version, the 328 GTB is much more rare to the 328 GTS than the 348 TB is to the TS.

    Rgds
     
  10. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2008
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    You can only value relative scarcity so much. These things are still meant to be enjoyed and in the day more people found the open cars more enjoyable than closed and liked the 328 better than the 348. There's no reason to think that these preferences have changed over time.

    There are exceptions but rare cars are often rare for a good reason.
    ;)
     
  11. phrogs

    phrogs F1 Veteran
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    Apr 13, 2004
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    If its meaningless why does he want it?


    BS flag up!
     
  12. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jul 22, 2004
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    Sorry if I've asked you this a million times already but, is your car on the registry?

    Tastes change and people are discovering the positives elements of the GTB. I think it's pretty safe to say these days the 328 GTB is worth more than the comparable 328 GTS.

    -F
     
  13. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I'd also mention that the used car buyer often has different priorities. A closed car of this vintage will always be favored by a "driver" while an open car is better to be seen in.
     
  14. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    As you know Furmano, and we have already discussed this many times, not here in Europe because the GTB is rather common this side of the Atlantic (I know it is much more rare in the US). In fact, with a "comparable" car condition, history, mileage, etc...there is no difference at all in price between the two variants these days.
    Oh well, actually the truth is that asked price being what they are nowadays, you could also find one for the double of the other, or the reverse: one GTS I know of with 15.000 miles has an asked price of 195.000 euros...others 100.000...

    Rgds
     
  15. sherpa23

    sherpa23 F1 World Champ
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    #40 sherpa23, Jul 2, 2015
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    I will present another side of the coin as I am reading a lot of uninformed opinions in this thread.

    First, know that I owned a pristine 1988.5 black on black 328 GTB for almost 8 years and sold it in late 2012. Also, I own one of the 45 factory built 348 TB Challenges and have a couple of thousand miles on it. Here is the complete story on your situation as I know both sides of owning each car.

    First, a LATE 348 (SS or Challenge) is an amazing car to drive and to own. The factory Challenge cars were built with a ton of upgrades and updates, including 355 suspension geometry (although you need the 18" Challenge wheels or 355 wheels to match it up apples to apples). It is a hugely reliable car once sorted and is a huge step beyond the 328. I will not part with my 348CH, even though I have been offered 328 GTB money for it. In fact, I have been repeatedly offered a very low mile 1989 328 GTB straight swap for it. I won't do it.

    An early 348 has to be seriously gone through and updated to even compare to a late 348. It can be done but very few have gone to those lengths. In original form, it's not even a comparison from a 1990 to 1994 car. If you don't beleive me, read the Forza 348 Buyer's guide for a snippet of a driving comparison of an early car and a 1995 Spider, which has many of the updates.

    Second, a 1987 328 GTB is very solid but it doesnt have all of the updates that a 1988.5 or 1989 car has, which is maybe no big deal in the long run to many buyers but it´s important to note. Things like the oil baffling in the wet sump and a whole manner of things were updated. That said, it's nothing compared to the updates that were done on a 348.

    Lastly, I would NEVER trade a 328 GTB of any year for a 1990 348 unless the cash was substanital and you really liked that particular 348. The 328 GTB is a super, super car with a ton of character and feel and is a very reliable car that won't kill you with maintenance. Remember that no amount of money is worth going from something you love more to something you love less or worse, don't love at all.

    You never disclosed the amount of cash you were offered but it would really have to be a substantial amount for it to be fair and, and i said, if you don't like the 348 you'd be getting then why even consider it. Everyone here has the right answer depending on how much money was offered but you're not getting an equal car. One more thing is that many people in this thread are talking future values of the 328. Well, NOBODY knows what the future values are. Compare the cars in present, not hypothetical future values.

    Hope that helps.
     
  16. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    There have been quite a number of these "swap plus cash offers" recently since prices started zooming and I can't help wondering why legitimate purchasers wouldn't just offer a purchase price? Has anyone recently accepted one of these swap offers and been happy with the results? To me it rings lots of alarm bells...
     
  17. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Qedqeq, is your car #68233?

    -F
     
  18. Doc Chaz

    Doc Chaz Karting

    Mar 27, 2014
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    I wholeheartedly agree with Cosgrove. The guy is full of it so end of story!
     
  19. qedqeq

    qedqeq Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2015
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    #44 qedqeq, Jul 5, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2015

    Hi Furmano

    Yes it is.

    Thanks

    Been away for a few days, haven't been to update this post on my behalf
     
  20. sherpa23

    sherpa23 F1 World Champ
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    End of story? So how much cash was he offered? I think that you guys couldn't be more off base if he was offered $150k and the 348. But I guess no one really cares about the facts in this case because they all want to say that our guy is getting ripped off.
     
  21. qedqeq

    qedqeq Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2015
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    The 348 + $20,000USD -or- $70000 straight cash

    My apologies for not mentioning this sooner.

    At least this particular party did give me a choice, :p
     
  22. sherpa23

    sherpa23 F1 World Champ
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    Meh, not worth it. Keep the 328.
     

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