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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by JERRYZ, Feb 11, 2014.

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  1. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    That's funny because any reasonable person would want a safer car if given the choice. Any sportscar owner would want a quicker car, not a slower car.
     
  2. anunakki

    anunakki Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    You used the word 'reasonable.' Thats one of those words like 'fair' thats 100% subjective which again goes to you not being able to be objective.
     
  3. LARRYH

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    No actually Tesla Said they will build a SEMI that will go 500 miles they did not actually Represent that they had the ability to build it right now ,nor is it available right now.
     
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  4. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    I think its a very interesting thread with lots of knowledge on both side.
    I think we are disgressing a lot though.
    Us ferrari fans must admit that tesla are coming and that they have a strong product specially in only a few years.
    Teslas owner must also realize that for now teslas are gts at best and can not compete with ferraris niche.
    Teslas are pretty cool but not special looking like ferraris, their purpose is different.
    That semi thingy im not sure has much to do with the initial thread;)


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  5. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    Thank you for being so absurd no one has to take you seriously.
     
  6. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    You are wrong. They have a working prototype NOW. I saw it in person. Deliveries scheduled to begin in 2019. The Mercedes semi has a similar timeline. So the two are very comparable.
     
  7. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    I agree with you that Tesla's are gt's now. However, the Roadster is coming and it will be a true sportscar competing with Ferrari. The semi subject shows to those who claim Tesla will have competition that they don't understand the situation. It proves Tesla has no competition in EV technology.
     
  8. LARRYH

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    Did they demo the 500 mile haul without recharge .?
     
  9. anunakki

    anunakki Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Yup thats me. Always being absurd. Never logical.

    As you only have 400 posts here you wont understand the irony of that...

    Maybe one day you will understand that opinions are subjective. Until then, I wish you the best with your Teslas.
     
  10. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    Who would sit around for a 500 mile drive? That's absurd. Mercedes didn't drive their semi for 220 miles in front of an audience either. Tesla always delivers what they promise. They are just always late. Big deal.
     
  11. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    I never questioned opinions. I've been stating mostly facts.
     
  12. LARRYH

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    absurd ? Not exactly the Real News worthy claim is that they have a semi hauler that can be driven while hauling a full load 500 miles between charges . I would certainLy think creditable test results should accompany such a tremendous claim
     
  13. Bas

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    Not exactly necessary for Mercedes since you can just simply refuel it in a matter of minutes.

    Who drives ''absurd 500 miles''? Erm....truckers for one! And I do, and many others....

    Tesla's ''30 minute recharge'' on their truck is massively skeptical, too. To get that they'll need a charger 10 times as fast that currently exists, absurd!

    The model S can't drive any further because they can't fit enough batteries anymore, yet their new Roadster they claim almost double the miles per charge, despite the car being smaller (Therefore by default there should be less space for batteries).

    The Roadster is a distraction from what's really going on, their semi is build for short distances only (it's not conceivable for long distance whatever the case).
     
  14. Newjoint

    Newjoint Formula 3

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    This thread has devolved into absurdity on both sides. Bottom line: Life is about change, sometimes for the better and sometimes not. Just look at all the evolutionary dead ends. If Tesla succeeds, we all win. Survival of the fittest is what car development is about provided it is also what the people want. One can argue about digital vs analog in audio but the people have spoken and analog has become a super Subspecialty on the audio scene with expensive toys that only a few want (and are catered to by the business).
    The same can be said about high performance vehicles when you look at the numbers. If electricity makes high performance cars do better great, if not, the dodos are happy to have company. The same could be said for Ferrari Lamborghini Porsche etc. The market will decide. Of course the governments of this world may know better, and screw things up in favor of one or the other but eventually the unintended consequences will fade and the market will win out.


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  15. Statler

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    Jerry, do you work for Tesla in any capacity? (this includes if you work for someone that subcontracts)
     
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  16. bberg009

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    Yup.. there was a lot of "disruption" in the cars that was going to revolutionize the auto industry. We had DeLoran with all stainless steel, Datsun with outsourced manufacturing, Saturn with small economical engines, Fisker with Karma Revero plug-in hybrid car, Think Global's Think City electric cars, Better Place Automotive's electric car division, NY's Smith Electric Vehicles was going revolutionize the industry with EV city and local manufacturing, and that is just the beginning...

    Codas electrical cars was going to make EVs cheap and accessible, GreenTech Auto was building EV neighborhood cars to revolutionize how we used and shared cars, the National Electric Vehicle of Sweden -NEVS was going to revolutionize the EV industry with cars based on the Saab platform.

    get the idea? All had good ideas, burned through cash like no tomorrow, could not sell their cars for what they cost to manufacture, and went bankrupt, while Mercedes, Ford, GM, Fiat, VW etc .. are still here.. why should the big boys not wait, and make small bets on EVs, let Tessa try to build technology and a market and simple swoop in and capture it, if/when it becomes a meaningful real business, and not a side show for the green movement...
     
  17. JERRYZ

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    Yes, they will be delivering a semi that hauls a full load and a range of 500 miles. EVERY prototype that Tesla has unveiled has lived up to their claims. Why would anyone doubt them? Again, they have lived up to EVERY claim they have ever made. They are always late to deliver but they meet every goal. So keep making FUD all you want but the world is changing and Tesla is taking over.
     
  18. JERRYZ

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    You have no idea what you are talking about. Mercedes unveiled an EV semi last month that goes 220 miles. It can't refuel quickly. What prototype ever was driven it's full range during a demo? There's no need when Tesla ALWAYS delivers what they claim. So yes, it will recharge 400 miles of range in 30 minutes. This is not theoretical, they have the technology now. This is one of the biggest proofs that Tesla is WAY ahead of the rest of the world in EV technology.

    Not sure what myth you are referring to regarding the Model S but they continuously improve the range and will do so forever.

    The Roadster is a real product and proves that gas powered drivetrains are now obsolete. It's not a distraction, it's really coming.

    The semi will go 500 miles, that's long haul my friend.
     
  19. JERRYZ

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    This is a very fair question as I no doubt am overly exuberant about Tesla. I have never worked for Tesla or anyone close to Tesla. I am merely excited about this revolution that is taking place in transport and fuel. Elon Musk says that Tesla's customers are it's greatest salesforce and I couldn't agree more. Ignoring this movement is just sticking your head in the sand. Drive a Tesla if you haven't.
     
  20. Statler

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    One of the dad’s at my kid’s school is involved and works for them. He drives one to the school daily (and changes it up). I’ve driven the suv with the cool doors and whatever the normal current model is. Acceleration is absolutely phenomenal!
    You couldn’t pay me to own one.(doesn’t fit our needs at all)

    Thank you for answering question.
     
  21. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    Thank you for proving my point even more. EVERY example you listed was a failed attempt. NONE of them ever came close to gaining the traction Tesla has gained. Do you realize that Tesla became the largest U.S. automaker by market cap earlier this year? They did so because they have already succeeded where all others failed. Tesla and Ford are the ONLY U.S. automakers to have never filed BK. The big boys are missing the boat on this EV revolution. That ship has sailed.
     
  22. Statler

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    I just did a road trip. 360 miles and then five minute fill up. Then repeat. 2,000 Miles.

    How’s that work in any current Tesla?


    I get that it’s a commuter car (expensive one... lots of gallons of regular to make that up... worse than diesel). But as anything other than a city commuter walk us through it...

    Leaving it outside in freezing weather for days...

    Power goes out for three days...
     
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  23. JERRYZ

    JERRYZ Formula Junior

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    I did a 2,000 mile trip earlier this year. It was the best roadtrip I've ever taken. I used the Tesla superchargers throughout the trip. Used each 30 minute stop for a snack and restroom break. The coolest part is that I spent $0 on fuel because the Tesla stations are free for me forever. How much did you spend on gas? The Model S is WAY more than a commuter car. Because it's autopoilot is the best on the road it made the drive very comfortable.
     
  24. jgriff

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    Sounds like you wasted a lot of time. As someone who owns a Tesla I assume you are fairly successful. How much is the opportunity cost of wasting all that time waiting around for a supercharger? In my car I figure it would cost me about $200 for the entire trip. Even one 30 minute stop would waste enough of my time to almost negate the savings. I can work an extra 30 minutes and cover the price of the gas. If I really wanted to save money on transportation costs a Tesla wouldn’t even be on the list of cars to consider.
     
  25. Jana

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    Already did. Still don't care. Can afford a garage full of them.

    Your PREFERENCE is not the same as others. What part of that do you refuse to understand?
     
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