Justification for higher-Education... true???

higher-education... really bring you the life to enjoy Ferrari...!!!

How many here got your Ferrari from higher education...??? Definately hard working, creative thinking, making the right decision, honest to your work and clients.... plus a little luck will get you there. many get there without education... many get there solely by education....
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I have only an associates degree in computer systems and network technology...I'm well on my way to getting an Fcar w/ that. I've found work ethics can get you where you want to be. I've met many people I'd consider less intelligent than me that have made millions from working hard.

 

+1, Have a small look into my life

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125953

 

One does not need education to succeed.

However the odds of one succeeding are greatly enhanced with education.

My parents always told me I could loose everything in life but no one could take away my education.

Life deals difficult hands sometimes, and it is best to be prepared to make quick turns to succeed. Your chances of doing this, again, are greatly enhanced with education.

You don't have to nor may you always use all the education you acquire, but it is better to have it.

 

Assuming this statement applies to College, I only agree if one is to go for a specific profession. I think a general degree dosen't get you so far these days.

 

Try going anywhere without one ... general or not.

 

Only if one plans on working for somebody else for most of their career/profession.

 

It depends on what you want to do in life. If you want to fit in a large corporation than a degree will be useful. If you want to do real estate or work for a smaller company, then maybe a college degree is not needed.

I would suggest it is better to figure out what you like to do, then decide if college is needed. College is getting expensive, and in some cases you might not need a 4 year degree and 60K of debt. There was a time when a simple MSCE certificate could lead to a 100K a year. People who invested a month of study for the test made good money for a couple years.

 

ZR1's got it right. No one should go to college to get a Ferrari. Go to college to get an education. Work hard to get the Ferrari.
Should do a poll to see what level of education Ferrari owners have... I bet the majority have a Bachelors or higher.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING is to find something that you love doing, the money will be there.

 

I studied real hard back in college, Fresno State, CA. I had to force myself to study about things I hate to get good grades. At the end, I got an engineering degree, a civil engineering. Came back home to Thailand, Work in engineering field for about a month..... then, I quit. My friend who started working at the same time as me is still with the firm after 15 years and earn good salary, but no where near owning a Ferrari. The reason I quit then was because I knew salary will get me no where near my dream.... I trashed my degree and went with my own creativity....

Of course, the most important thing education gave me was responsibility and discipline.... My thought now is my son; Will I let my son go through the same thing....???

 

I tell my son the key is to be an employer, not an emplyoee.

 

"Education is an admirable thing, but nothing that is worth knowing can be taught."

Mr. Wilde put it best...Oscar, that is.

 

For me personally... Education got me where I am.

But IMO the question is not so simple... could it be that people who go to college are in general / on average more motivated? more goal oriented? therefore more likely to succeed with or without college?

IMHO a college degree is "required" today to get society's respect. It opens doors...

Now, Just for a discussion (not predicting this to happen), what if college tuitions continue to sharply rise. At what price is a college degree no longer worth the $$$. For discussion sake, if "good" state school, Say University of Texas, was $50K or $100K/year, is that piece of paper worth the roughly 1/4M or 1/2M the degree would cost (with living expenses thrown in). or would your child be better off being given 1/2M to start a business, a pat on the back, and a goodluck wish...

For me... my boy is going to college if I have any say in the matter!

 

simon has a good point. the return on a bachelors degree is shrinking and at some point it becomes a negative investment.

 

IMHO a higher education is justified just for the pursuit of knowledge itself, regardless of the income potential.

 

One thing is certain -- high school will *not* teach you how to learn.

You need to teach yourself how to learn, and any good college will teach you that. (Often it's "sink or swim", but you learn or you're out.)

If you don't have the ability to absorb new things, the future will leave you behind.

One of the more disturbing trends I've noted in modern society is this denegration of education. "Ignorance is bliss" is a lie you tell to children. Like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. Being ignorant may make you a good liitle consumer, but it doesn't make you rich.

Late news flash: the dot-com era is over. It collapsed.
Irony: When the dot-coms collapsed, the people with a solid income got a bargain, when the flood of used Ferraris on the market depressed the prices.

There are benefits to working for others: Health insurance, sick leave, pension plans, retirement programs, life insurance -- things you don't think about when you're 18.

Sure, I can hear it now, "But if I'm rich by 25, I don't need those things." When I was 25, what was considered "rich" is chump change today. (Remember, the 246GT originally only cost $7500. That was a lot of money back then.) College used to cost $2000 a quarter.

(But if you sneer at education, you can talk yourself out of providing a college fund for your kids.)

Anyone see this as another case of selling your tomorrow for a quick buck today?

 

I bailed out of school after my first year and don't really regret it. After working with, working for, and having college educated people work for me, I get the impression that a degree doesn't mean much these days. When I think of the most intelligent/successful friends I have, none of them have college degrees.

Interesting bit in yesterday's Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/14/AR2007011401026_pf.html

"In a recent survey of college students on U.S. civic literacy, more than 81 percent knew that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was expressing hope for "racial justice and brotherhood" in his historic "I Have a Dream" speech.

That's the good news.

Most of the rest surveyed thought King was advocating the abolition of slavery."

-R

 

Bill Gates is a college dropout.

Dave

 

I didn't like school much and so dropped out of college as soon as I saw an oppotunity to do something else. Most all multi-millionaires I know are entrepeneurs, some with degrees, some not. I know of one, for instance, who has a BS, MS, and JD but ended up doing the same business as me, totally unrelated to anything he ever studied. But I know another who dropped out of high school and is even more successful. I'm not saying education is a waste. Most people do not have the right personality to be entrepeneurs. For them the best path is higher education or a good trade skill.

Dave

 

Of course one cannot be a doctor, lawyer, CPA,veterinarian, nurse or many other professionals without a college degree...and since most people do not know what they want to do with their life at the time of high school graduation, getting at least a Bachelors degree is a good idea IMHO...then at 22 years old or so you are better able to either continue your educational pursuit or go to work doing whatever...a higher education will never hurt you and is very helpful in increasing your world knowledge such that you are able to at least carry on an intelligent conversation in social and business settings...

 

I was under the impression that all one had to do to practice law was pass the Bar Exam, and one did not have to go to law school to take the Bar.

Is this wrong?

 

“Formal education will make you a living; self-education will make you a fortune.” Jim Rohn

Combination of both will make you....<fill in the dots>

 

i think it depends on the state. like most "accreditions", the profession does what it can to keep others out.

 

I was always curious how often people try this, and how often they are successful at passing the exam. Or is it urban legend...

 

I'm not so sure you can walk in off the street and take the bar exam. You need references. In some places, that can be from a lawyer. In most places, it's a college.