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  1. gsjohnson

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    So if you have a Euro car converted to U.S. specs, I would assume that the 433.9 frequency is still utilized?
    But Dave, I hold my fork upside down :)
     
  2. DJW

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    I am interested in a euro fob
     
  3. gsjohnson

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  4. tazandjan

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  5. JohnnyRay

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    You are all correct. 315MHz for US. 434 for Europe. This are referred to as "ISM" band or "Sub-Gigahertz", and are frequency bands allocated for low power telemetry of data. I don't know which module has the RF receiver in the 550 - or where it is located - however I would believe that this item was overlooked when Federalizing a Euro car, thus 434MHz FOBs would then be needed for Euro-spec cars...
     
  6. tazandjan

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    #56 tazandjan, Dec 29, 2014
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    Johnny- Yup, here is the frequency by country. All explained in the attached document.

    Note 1
    Countries with a frequency of 433 MHz:
    Italy, Denmark, Luxembourg, Austria, France, Spain, Portugal, Sweden, Finland, Germany (with specific complete ECU kit), Switzerland (with specific complete ECU kit), Belgium (with specific complete ECU kit), Netherlands (with specific complete ECU kit), United Kingdom (with specific complete ECU kit), Ireland (with specific complete ECU kit), Greece, Turkey, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Brunei, Hong Kong, China, Thailand, Taiwan.

    Note 2
    Countries with a frequency of 315 MHZ:
    USA, Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, Lebanon, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Japan, Singapore, Australia.
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  7. PRS Guitarist

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    Gobble,you did my last FOBs and they work great. Do you have a red one Euro now?
     
  8. JohnnyRay

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    #58 JohnnyRay, Jan 11, 2015
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    I just received my documents for my new 550 (unfortunately, no car yet...thanks to Barrett-Jackson).

    Take a look at the attached. Is this the PIN for my FOBs? BTW - i did get all 3 FOBs. I have the red and a black, the other black is still with the car...
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  9. gsjohnson

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  10. JohnnyRay

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    Rats! Just when everything else looked so complete. :-(

    Do you think that the original dealer would have records? It came through Miller Motorcars....
     
  11. 308 GTB

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    Relax. Look through your books. The PIN code card might be tucked in one of them. If it's still unopened, it looks different than the one pictured.

    Barry
     
  12. tazandjan

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  13. 308 GTB

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    Yeah. That's what mine looks like. It remains unopened. The original owner tucked it away in the alarm booklet. I guess the dealership told him the PIN and he wrote it on a copy of the page from the WSM that tells you what to do with it. He tucked that into the flap on the owners manual cover.

    Also tucked in there is a side view drawing of the driver's seat with various measurements from the seat back to the rear deck. I guess that's what you do if you don't have seat adjustment memory. :D
     
  14. 308 GTB

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    Maybe he left a ruler in the netting back there. :D
     
  15. gsjohnson

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    So is mine different because it is a Euro/German delivery or is it because it is opened and the code is revealed?
     
  16. tazandjan

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    GS- They all look the same. Yours just has the top sheet removed that exposes the PIN.
     
  17. JohnnyRay

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    So far, no PIN code. The owner assured me that all paperwork was there...but I don't think he had an awareness of PINs and their importance. Nothing in the leather binder of enclosed manuals. As I perused the service history, I came to find that the key/FOBs had already been replaced once...in Utah. Bingo! A quick call to the dealer, only to find out that all their old records had been discarded recently with a change of ownership. And, they had not written the new PIN on the service invoice as they generally did.
    Sooo...how does one get a PIN code for a complete set of replacement keys? Does Ferrari have record of the replacement service?
     
  18. gobble

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    I think you're screwed. The factory keeps records but the replacement would override the number they have.
     
  19. tazandjan

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    Ferrari does keep track of PIN changes when they send out a new set of fobs plus PIN. Either that or the group in Australia can pull the PIN from your Alarm ECU or red fob, but that is expensive.
     
  20. JohnnyRay

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    Sooo...how does a rube like me contact Ferrari and ask for the PIN code? :)
     
  21. tazandjan

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    Johnny- Go through your local or nearest dealer.
     
  22. gobble

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    You think if a dealer changes fobs they send the new pin number back to Italy to keep in the files? I thought these types of changes were the reason Italy sometimes comes back with the wrong number?
     
  23. tazandjan

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    All the new sets of fobs and PINs come directly from Maranello, so they have a record of it. Having received a set from the factory through Boardwalk for my 575M, it looks just like the original set with your VIN on the outside and the PIN and VIN on the inside. Problem comes when the factory is not involved.
     
  24. JohnnyRay

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    #74 JohnnyRay, Jan 20, 2015
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    Would you say that the white document above the leather pouch in the attached picture #28 contains the PIN, or is that too large? It is the only piece that I do not have This picture is from 2004. Two owners ago. Might narrow my search. Picture #13 is what I have today...
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  25. tazandjan

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