Kimi won't compromise over 2010 deal

he's been saying this for some time now!

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262726

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261861

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261710

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261745

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261391

 

So regarding Kimi at Mclaren, wont there always be a pay problem. I mean if Kimi reportedly gets 45mill and Lewis gets paid 18mill. Does Kimi think he is worth double that of Lewis? I cant see Kimi cutting his wages by 60% to equal that of Lewis's. Or do you think they will raise Lewis's wages to match any figure that kimi is happy with?
I thik we should wave good by to him if he wont compromise.

 

Since Kimi is making a reported 20 mil from Ferrari to sit on his a$$, I expect he does not feel motivation to do much of anything. Looks like he is going to make more playing golf next year than Lewis did this year driving.

 

Problem is, REAL champion-level drivers are hungry to win.

I can't believe I am saying it, but in this respect, Button is more a champion than Kimi. Button took a massive pay cut to stay at Brawn and try to win.

Kimi on the other hand is willing to drive only if he gets the $$$ he wants.

He doesn't realize his stock has tanked in value.

And that's why it is time for him to leave F1.

Or F-off would be a more apt way to put it.

 

He's deliberately pricing himself out of a job. Maybe a year off will change his mind a bit and bring him down to earth? Cocktails anyone?

 

Kimi's the only one with his feet on the ground.
He's got a WDC and more than enough money. He's decided what its worth to him to return and if he doesn't get it he's willing to walk.
Yes I'd rather have a driver who is so determined to win that he'd work for free but Kimi's doing what he thinks is best for Kimi and I can't fault him for that.

 

me neither - I admire him for looking out for number 1 (whatever that may be to him) - a true sign of total independence which I like - too bad he's not with Jenni - he was smiling then !

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People keep talking about money but i don't think it is his biggest concern,
Kimi wants to do whatever he wants, like at ferrari, they let him do rally, act like he want
in total freedom, and that wasn't the case at mclaren back in the days..
Plus, he surely is looking for a strong contract to be treated equally with Hamilton. not like the poor Kovalainen.

If he was a money whore he would have signed up with toyota, i'm sure they still pay good.

 

+1; I am getting tired of his aloof attitude. But I would be ten times worse than him given his bankroll & situation...........

Kevin

 

that's my opinion as well. and i said that in another thread...for this guy who obviously wants to enjoy many things in his life (and 'concurrent' is the word i believe), this is about F1 and x,y,z. iWe all have our own ideals and most of us would surely be more than thrilled to be payed millions to drive...most of us think a drive (and millions of $) in F1 should be rewarding enough in and of itself. But we are all different, and obviously our wants and needs in life vary tremendously. I would love to sit in with him and his agent during negotiations...to see exactly what it is he wants. We all should be so lucky to be able to 'hold out', as some put it, until the 'right' combination of goods are offered. I won't blast him for his way of thinking and living, and i think he is incredibly lucky to be in the position that he is.

 

Good riddance. Good luck in Rallying.

CW

 

A lot of folks seem to have an issue with his "attitude". Part of which is a Nordic reticence, some of which is an unwillingness to suffer fools, particularly those in the press. Unlike most F1 drivers these days he's kept a part of himself to himself and feels no need to dance to anyone else's tune. More power to him.

 

with all due respect Mike...me, i do think he is a real champion in every aspect. And it's obvious that he is a very different person than Button, so their outlook on life is bound to be very different as well. I really do not think this is all about the euro's, but rather a set of 'needs' for him. This guy is really hard to 'pin down' (as Max would put it I'm sure he still wants to race and to win, but it's just that he has 'other' things he wants along the way. As a person who has many interests and passions in my life, I can definitely see his side of things..and i would give a kidney to be able to choose like Kimi. My take is that if a team can't live with his 'needs': simply don't hire him...if all the teams can't live with it, I'm sure he'll be just fine doing his 'other' things I ran into a guy the other day-a friend of a friend-- who, in a sense, reminded me of this whole Kimi fiasco. He was offered a job paying what was in my eyes a 'grab your nuts and laugh your @ss off' salary. I said to him, umm, people are losing their jobs, their homes, their sanity, left and right, so what is the problem? Well, he turned it down because he was already on solid footing financially, and he couldn't live with what he'd have to give up..being gone from his family much of the year and missing out on his young(ish) children. All i could muster in response was..man, that's tough. I would've taken that job in a heartbeat, had i been qualified..but my life and my circumstances are completely different. Some people are lucky to have more choices than others...

 

It may be that he wants to make sure that the car he gets is competitive, and that he isn't second chair. Most of the guys that I know that are champions want the vehicle 1st, and then they go after the money. The only one that I know that went after the money is John Hopkins, and look where he is now.

Art

 

Agreed. I really doubt it's just about money like the press seems to think.

 

When I look for employees thats what I look for. People who want me to provide the perfect work environment.
Cause it's all about them.
If they actually do any work I think of it as a bonus.
Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

your situation and kimi's isn't exactly the same thing is it? is there an insane level of economic rent involved with them? when those potential employees already have millions and gazillions of dollars, and you couldn't provide them with EXACTLY what they want...they wouldn't give half a pinch of their 'daily loaf' if they didn't get the job, they'll be just fine doing other things instead of working for you....

 

Nope. Button took a pay cut to stay in F1 with the hopes of landing at a team at some future date that could deliver. Weird voodoo that it happened to be Brawn F1, but that's no matter. For Button, it was either take a paycut or push shopping carts around. It's hard to get back into F1 once you leave it, and a low salary at a dead team is better than no salary at no team with no drive. Button is no noble hero...he stayed at Brawn because he had no other choice.

Beyond that, who really cares who is more champion than the other? Such neural ruminations are best left in the minds of those that occupy the sandboxes of schoolyards during recess.

Kimi thinks he is worth X and no team thinks he is...so he'll sit out and neither him nor his former fans will give a shyt.

 

As much as I like Kimi's (potential) ability, this is such a great post.

 

Kimi Raikkonen is not only holding out for a high salary at McLaren but apparently wants to be allowed to go rallying between races as well!

http://twitter.com/byronf1

 

Kimi now has a whole year to "take a sh*t".

 

hahaha!

 

Toyota offered, and his management demanded more money. First off, Toyota themselves are not even confirmed on the grid next year.

 

Even Brawn says that Kimi is smoking something

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/091103103442.shtml