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yep.. seems your grey matter is still working.. those lugs are present on the 330 cam covers, but not the 250.

yes, so you could machine those lugs off first

 

Yes, 0165EL. You do know the history of it right?

Regards,

Carl.
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Geoff Dutton currently owns it I believe.

 

no, i dont know the history. i saw it a duttons a couple of years ago. it was for sale at 800k. and i saw it again in the historic garage at last years GP. i just love it. automotive porn!!!

 

Yes it's a ripper, and a shame that more of these cars are not being used. I don't want to take anything away from this car, however I quote from the Goodman Auctioneers from their April 2002 Auction.

"1951 Ferrari 212 Barchetta Touring by Superleggera Touring of Milan'
Chassis 0165EL Engine EU0247, acquired at the Earls Court Motor Show
by Mike Hawthorn, Formula 1 champion for Ferrari...."

I believe this is an exceedingly misleading statement. It was not a 212 Barchetta, but an Inter Cabriolet (Raab). The rebody was performed around 1987 for owner Martin Mc Glone and Don Nelson's Barchetta 0136 E being used as a pattern. The original engine is (I think) in 153EL.

The ex-Mike Hawthorn claim is crazy. Any car sold through his Dad's TT Garages is often described as being ex-Hawthorn Jr. I wonder if Mike Hawthorn even saw the car???

Regards,

Carl.

 

My Dad had a Mike Hawthorn XK120 road car.

Wrote it off dodging a Landrover at Dusk I think.

 

Perhaps you should consider bringing it in as a race car and then running it on 28 day permits, given the $ involved. Not a huge problem unless you use the car a LOT.

I have no problems with buying a replica as long as it is a really good one. Otherwise it is a constant disappointment every time you look at it. More so if you know what the real thing DOES look like!

All yours on the 20ft description. Fits so many cars out there!

 

thanks Carl. it's always interesting how some owners interpret the history of their cars. it's a stunning vehicle though, no matter what.

 

The main issue I see with replicas is when people try to pass them off as something that they are not...other than that, go for it! Shed a quiet tear for the 250 or 330 that has given up it's soul however

Surely now there is enough of a group of 'well connected' collectors to make a decent case to the Customs people about personal importation of motor vehicles? Seems to be a bit stupid that it's so difficult to import and register something like an F40 compared to elsewhere in the world. I guess the motor traders group have got a very effective lobbyist in Canberra. Perhaps us enthusiasts need to go down that route. After all, it's not like the government needs all that extra cash from the LCT...

 

It is not that difficult if you pay someone like Mark Coffey for his time and trouble to organise it for you. All you need is the contacts and the knowledge of how it all works.

 

I know it's partly the case of just having to pay money, but it seems rather stupid to me that there are such restrictions with regards to registration etc. I had heard that Mark Coffey brings the cars in as "competition" vehicles. Just strikes me as rather pointless to make it so complicated to bring in such vehicles. A similar issue has come up with high value 'classic' cars as well once or twice. Can't see how these sort of vehicles are going to affect the local auto industry...

 

They don't, it's ALL about the money. The stupid thing is,they would make MORE money by having a system where special cars are allowed in. By special, I don't mean Nissan GTR's etc, etc. Perhaps they could have an advisory board of experts to look at it case by case. Dunno.

 

Back to the correct use of this thread. We can't be going OT here now...
First one should be a doddle. Very 'unusual' in the flesh and rather low slung too!
Second car a bit more tricky. Would you believe we saw two of them while at Monterey last year. One turned up in our hotel carpark beside the Daytona and the various 360 Spiders...
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without cheating the first one is the Modulo show car and the second is a 365 ???????

 

was that car here once...at the car show? i think i sat in it.

 

The guy with his head in the shot of the Modulo is Art "Hotwire" Schwartz - wanted by the FBI for Grand Theft Auto.

His son, Art Jnr., is in the orange jacket stalking the red-haired chick obscuring the former personal transport of Pininfarina - a spec bodied 250GT Lusso.

GM

 

a Lusso !!!

ahh, now that you mention it , it does look very Lusso except fro the very front end

btw how did you get into and out of the US when you are on the same FBI hit list ??

 

Right on the first car - the Modulo, but more information needed. Second one, close but no cigar...(cuban or otherwise)

 

How about this
The Modulo, built on the exceptional Ferrari 512/S Chassis, was the result of a study made by Pininfarina seeking a new design for automobiles.
Introduced at the 1970 Geneva Motor Show, this concept car was inspired by what were at the time the most up-to-date layouts of racing cars and sports cars. The result was a car with striking clean lines. It also featured unique relationships between space and objects.

The Modulo was not intended to be a racing prototype but was instead intended to help us all break away from present styles and peer into the future.

In earned 22 international design awards for its pure formal research and its intentional geometry.

The mechanicals of this concept were those of the Ferrari 512 S. It had a mid-rear V12 60-degree engine, displacing 4,004 cubic-centimeters and delivering 550 hp at 8,500 rpm. It also had a five-speed gearbox and rear wheel drive.

The Modulo has a wheelbase of 2,405 mm a length of 4,480 mm, a width of 2,040 mm, and a height of 36 inches.



1970 Ferrari 512 S Modulo
Year 1970
Make Ferrari
Model 512 S Modulo
Engine Location Mid
Drive Type Rear Wheel
Body Designer Pininfarina

Engine
Engine Configuration V
60-degree
Cylinders 12
Aspiration/Induction Normal
Displacement 4004.00 cc | 244.3 cu in. | 4 L.
Horsepower 550.00 BHP (404.8 KW) @ 8500.00 RPM
HP / Liter 137.5 BHP / Liter

Standard Transmission
Gears 5
Transmission Manual

Dimensions
Seating Capacity 2
Exterior
Length 4480.001 mm | 176.4 in.
Width 2040.001 mm | 80.3 in.
Height 36.001 in | 914.4 mm.
Wheelbase 2405.001 mm | 94.7 in.
Vehicles with similar dimensions

 

Oh, and I read somewhere that because the front wheels were faired in, the car would only drive in a straight line. Must have been made for the American muscle car market.

 

yeah yeah Warren , we know all this abut the Modulo, but what about the other car