Koenig 308 | FerrariChat

Koenig 308

Discussion in '308/328' started by 328turbo, Dec 7, 2009.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. 328turbo

    328turbo Formula Junior

    Jun 15, 2009
    306
    nyc
    #1 328turbo, Dec 7, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  2. hanknum

    hanknum Formula 3

    Nov 1, 2003
    2,050
    Santa Barbara
    Full Name:
    Henry
    Not sure what that is. Don't think it's a Koenig. It has a 328 badge, but looks like a 308. It also has some euro stuff (rear valence), but also some US stuff (rear deck). The wheels look to be HREs. Where did you find this car?
     
  3. zebra308

    zebra308 Formula 3

    Jan 14, 2004
    1,339
    All Flimmits
    Full Name:
    Ruffis Leekin
    I'm thinking it might be a Zender modified 308
     
  4. GrayTA

    GrayTA F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Jun 25, 2006
    15,130
    Deep South
    Full Name:
    PDG
    Yeah, thats just a weird looking car....


    PDG
     
  5. ramosel

    ramosel Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2004
    1,237
    Meadow Vista, CA
    Full Name:
    R Moseley
  6. zebra308

    zebra308 Formula 3

    Jan 14, 2004
    1,339
    All Flimmits
    Full Name:
    Ruffis Leekin
    The two rear wheel arches in the op's pic don't seem to match the squared off look of the one in your link. The rocker panels extensions , front air dam and the rear valance do seem to match your link.

    Will
     
  7. zebra308

    zebra308 Formula 3

    Jan 14, 2004
    1,339
    All Flimmits
    Full Name:
    Ruffis Leekin
    +1 on the HRE 505s
     
  8. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Feb 24, 2006
    15,811
    Cerritos, CA.
    Full Name:
    Mike
  9. blainewest

    blainewest Formula Junior

    Aug 26, 2005
    729
    Kelowna, BC
    Full Name:
    Blaine W
    Sorry but I can't remain silent any longer. I'm not a purist but these Koenig Ferraris are pimple butt ugly. I'm sure they thougt they were improving on a design by a firm that clearly had no idea what they were doing (Pinninfarina) but this is worse than most ricerism we see about these days.
     
  10. Paul308GTSi

    Paul308GTSi Formula 3

    Oct 26, 2008
    1,003
    Queensland Australia
    Full Name:
    Paul D
    100% right, !

    All I see them as is a possibly good source for a project car .... a Keonig should sell for less than a normal 308 due to all the junk needing to be torn off.
     
  11. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Feb 24, 2006
    15,811
    Cerritos, CA.
    Full Name:
    Mike
    #11 miketuason, Dec 9, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    May I also remind you that Koenig doesn't only sell body kit but High Performance stuffs too.
    Turbo charge kit, cams, pistons, and more, kinda like AMG for Benz.
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  12. ramosel

    ramosel Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2004
    1,237
    Meadow Vista, CA
    Full Name:
    R Moseley
    Agreed. I saw one at Monterey a few years back. Its even uglier in person. The unbalanced body work from the left to the right side is even more gruesome when you can walk around the car.

    And yet the 288 or even a 288 conversion is such a gorgeous revision of the 308 shape. Its one of those Mind's Eye things I guess.

    Rick
     
  13. AZDoug

    AZDoug Formula 3

    Jun 17, 2009
    1,606
    Along the Verde , AZ
    Full Name:
    Doug
    Looks like it started to morph into a Countach,and development was arrested half way through.

    The first car pictured looks like somebody let a 1980's Firebird spend a night in the Ferrari stable, and this was the result some months later

    Doug
     
  14. ddiesen

    ddiesen Karting

    Apr 6, 2006
    159
    Mesa Arizona
    Full Name:
    David Diesen
    #14 ddiesen, Dec 9, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    Looks to me like the later Koenig side skirts and rear fenders withthe brake ducts removed.
    There are a few different variations on the Koenig kits through the years from rear fenders, front spoilers, mirrors, to rear wing styles.
    But from the last pic I don't think its a Zender. (Although if you were to remove those nasty cheese grater grill things in the ducts? Could be.)
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  15. blainewest

    blainewest Formula Junior

    Aug 26, 2005
    729
    Kelowna, BC
    Full Name:
    Blaine W
    Good for them but the very fact that they would market these "kits" would lead me to question whether I would want to buy anything from this firm.

    It's the same reaction I had when I first saw the Pontiac Aztec...told me all I needed to know about the future of that Brand.
     
  16. 328turbo

    328turbo Formula Junior

    Jun 15, 2009
    306
    nyc
    #16 328turbo, Dec 10, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    you guys are a very resourceful bunch, thanks!

    maybe its just the angle that i photographed the car, but the fender flairs do have a squared-off look to them.
    i shoulda took a side shot. and yes the rims are HRE's.

    it looks the same as the Koenig kit that you guys posted pics of, except that the cooling ducts were not opened up.

    its an 81 gtsi. looks like a Euro QV from the front and a vintage racer from the back, however i cant explain the '328' badge!! i thought it was a Koenig, but without the air dams, spoilers, and wing it wasnt as extreme looking so i was a little confused.
    i am thinking that Koenig built these as turn key cars.

    so, i guess my question now is,
    were these ground effects available from Koenig as kits?

    i like this car, i am sure purist want to puke at the sight of modded cars,
    but hey, these guys brag about 150hp race cars!?!?!? so who cares what they think, nobody is asking them to sign on to anything.

    because the ground kit is limited to the rocker panels and flares, it gives the sexy sports car, a muscular racing look without deviating from the original lines. plus the tires are huge which means it would be able to put down LOTS of power and make a great track car.

    i only found one pic of the Zender over the net, it is attached.
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  17. 328turbo

    328turbo Formula Junior

    Jun 15, 2009
    306
    nyc

    thanks for the input guys, but i didnt start this thread looking for negative criticism from the over-opinionated. you guys can start your own thread, and show your character by desecrating my or anyone else's car there.

    these cars have a legitimate place within Ferrari's history

    BTW, Blaine, if your such an expert on design and Pininfarina, why dont you own a car he penned, instead of the only Ferrari Enzo didnt like?


    ..........they are spelled Koenig & Pininfarina
     
    Cream88 likes this.
  18. 328turbo

    328turbo Formula Junior

    Jun 15, 2009
    306
    nyc
    #18 328turbo, Dec 10, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    p.s. i dont mean to diss the gt/4 or anyone who owns one. i think it is a really cool car, the same way i think its sister design, the Lambo Urracco is cool. but some people should really keep themselves in check with the negative criticism.
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  19. speedy

    speedy Formula Junior

    Oct 18, 2005
    625
    Plano, TX
    Full Name:
    James Gardner
    IT WAS THE 80's... You had to be there to understand.

    I like some of the Koenig stuff. Companies like Koenig, Gemballa and AMG helped create an industry that's still going strong today.
     
  20. zebra308

    zebra308 Formula 3

    Jan 14, 2004
    1,339
    All Flimmits
    Full Name:
    Ruffis Leekin
    I remember inquiring about the red 308GTS QV with the black wheels ( middle picture) back in 1988 or so. I believe it was advertised in the Du Pont Registry and was in Florida at The Auto Toy Store.
    At the time, the asking price was $ 77,000.00
     
  21. hanknum

    hanknum Formula 3

    Nov 1, 2003
    2,050
    Santa Barbara
    Full Name:
    Henry
    It also looks like it has a Saratoga top...
     
  22. karmavore

    karmavore Formula 3

    Dec 29, 2002
    1,641
    Hell
    Full Name:
    Karmavore
    I've never seen that first white w..i..d...e body before. That car is fantastic. I would *love* to own her. Maybe its a generational thing, but crazy auto tuning from the 80's turns me on.
     

Share This Page