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  1. turbo-joe

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    #126 turbo-joe, Sep 1, 2013
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    because of putting in stronger fuel pumps that need more ampere I just want to modify the fuse box. the relais and fuses of the 2 fuel pumps, the 2 water radiator vents and the oil radiator vent I already finished.

    but now I have some problems with the relais for the AC ( relais G )

    as you see at the wiring all 4 relais ( G, H, I, L ) are the same. with the connectors 30, 85, 86 and 87.
    30 is always input from the fuses
    87 goes to the vents when the relais are closed.
    85 and 86 is for let the relais work. if now plus goes to 85 or 86 it does not matter.
    relais G ( AC) is getting minus from connector b
    relais H and L is getting minus from the thermoswitch at the left radiator
    relais I gets minus from the thermoswitch at the oil radiator.
    but where did they all get plus from??? they are all connected with a plus cable, but this cable is nowhere coming from plus. those cables are only connecting the 4 relais.
    so who could help?

    steve - I think your turn? :)

    as I see it because there is no switch for the AC relais I think that the AC relais will get switched on by plus, not by minus. but where is this plus coming from?
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  3. Steve Magnusson

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    #128 Steve Magnusson, Sep 4, 2013
    Unfortunately, F sometimes doesn't show every connection on every page -- they got a little better about this later, but the schematics in TR WSM were (I believe) early in the process from when they went from a single huge schematic to breaking it up into separate pages (so they were still learning how to do that). I assume that what you've posted is page I34 in the TR WSM. If you refer to page I35, you'll see that those same "plus" relay coil connections are connected to the VB wire in the w connector (5th down from the top). If you then refer to page I26, you can see that that VB wire connector position in the w connector gets +12V from:

    battery -to- connector e -to- relay S terminal 87 -to- relay S terminal 30 (relay S is closed when the key is "on") -to- fuse 22 -to- that same 5th down from the top VB wire position in the w connector

    Easy, yes? ;)
     
  4. turbo-joe

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    #129 turbo-joe, Sep 4, 2013
    WOW ! ! !
    thank you steve for this info.
    but also I´m so stupid :( that I had not a look by myself on the other wiring pages. then I would have seen this also.
    now I see the things much more logical :) :D
     
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    #130 Domh65, Sep 9, 2013
    hi there. I have a 512tr believed koenig, but unable to trace its history. any help would be appreciated. Originally from Germany, chassis no. 96959. I can send some pics if that helps. Turbos have been taken off, and she is back to standard it seems, but with the body kit, F40 type carbon fibre seats, split rims, 345/35/17 rear wheels etc. lovely condition, low miles.
     
  6. 360modena2003

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    #131 360modena2003, Sep 27, 2013
    Hello turbo-joe,

    did you decide on what ECU to use?

    I think I have just the right one for you.

    Gruss aus Berlin,





     
  7. turbo-joe

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    #132 turbo-joe, Sep 27, 2013
    I already put in 2 trijekt
    just installing 12 new injectors. for this I have to modify the inlet manifolds
    pictures will follow soon
     
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    #133 360modena2003, Sep 27, 2013
    Oh..have you heard of SDSEFI?

    Very simple to use and not expensive. Check on google
     
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    #134 360modena2003, Sep 27, 2013
    I just took a look a trijekt, looks good.

    Which one will you use? Plus?
     
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    #135 turbo-joe, Sep 27, 2013
    riight, I use 2 plus because of the fully sequentially injection and ingintion

    I had a look at the SDSEFI. problem is same as the trijekt I have to use 2 ECU because of the 12 cylinders if I want a fully sequentially system.
    the trijekt is made from a german I have good contact to him and the language also is german. so it is easier for me to talk to him, when I have some special questions. until now I never had any trouble during installing with help form trijekt. so very good service, not to find at all corners. also I have those trijekts meanwhile since about 6 years, but never had time to install. and they have a good forum to discuss with other trijekt users
     
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    #136 360modena2003, Sep 28, 2013
    Great. Did you finally change the diff and gearbox housing?

    Can you show pictures?

    Thanks
     
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    #137 turbo-joe, Sep 28, 2013
    the diff case is from modena australia.
    the CP is made from tandler in bremen, also the main shaft is made by tandler.
    and if the diff-case will not break the diff cover left side also will not break ( I hope so :) )

    if you look here in this thread there are still some pictures.
    what you like to see?
     
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    #138 360modena2003, Sep 28, 2013
    Since I am new to this, I would like to understand what you changed.

    The differential and the "fuse" shaft?
     
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    #139 turbo-joe, Sep 28, 2013
    I changed the diff housing, the CP, the main shaft and also the "fuse-shaft".
    last I got from robert hayden from australia
    also I put in a 2 disk sinter metal clutch
    and the 2 drives shafts are hollow drilled
     
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    #140 360modena2003, Sep 29, 2013
    Ah wow, the housing? Do you have pictures of those, who made the housing?

    What is the CP?
     
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    #141 turbo-joe, Sep 29, 2013
    if you would read the complete thread you would know where the housing is from. also I just have written in post 137 who did it.

    cp:crown pinion
     
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    #142 360modena2003, Sep 29, 2013
    Great. Would be nice to see some pictures of that housing, very interesting.
     
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    #144 360modena2003, Sep 30, 2013
    Fantastic, looks extremely well made.

    Thanks
     
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    #145 BlueBiturbo, Oct 12, 2013
    Any updates yet ?

    PS : Have a great weekend
     
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    #147 turbo-joe, Nov 13, 2013
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    to modify the injectors I had to make special alu-bushings to pick up the bosch electric nozzles. a lot of work to do it right, but now it fits.
    next problem was the trottle poti. I had to cut out some from the injection line.
    more pictures will follow soon
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    #148 Melvok, Nov 13, 2013
    " today I get the special made covers from the aluminum foundry "

    Whaauw ... what are they for Romano; what parts of the GB are changed in your Koenig ?
     
  24. turbo-joe

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    #149 turbo-joe, Nov 13, 2013
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    until now I always thaught that the intake manifolds from the TR87 and TR 90 are the same.
    wrong ! ! ! :(
    87 is 112055, 90 is 121055

    I modified the intake manifolds from TR 90 and wanted to put them on the engine and had problems with both front manifolds. they are touching the water outlet from the cylinder heads. so I had to grind a little away.

    this only an information to those who are trying also to modify some
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