Koenig F50 for Sale!

What a shame...that car just dropped to half it's market value from a stock one.

 

What? 328,000 pounds is 596,885.75 USD. Far from half its value.??

 

I wonder how much it costs to upgrade?

 

So what...I can ask 700K for my 360. Doesn't mean I'm gonna get it. That car is a bling bling car only...Any true F-car collector won't waste money on it.

 

Not that it looks like a bad conversion, but such a special car should have been left stock.

 

Hot Mama!!!!
Great now got to change my pants, dam it!! lol

 

a super car made into a super super car

 

I guess when 800HP is just too much, you have to go down to 600...

 

Yeah, you gotta watch it in those school zones you know.

 

If i had retarded cash, itd be cool to own....I dont think its "an abomination" by any means, just..a mix of F40 and F50

 

nice very nice, i agree, you have to keep that stock, and do you really need 850 hp if your not gonna track the car?

 

That is awesome!

 

Someone is a bit haughty now...

Explain to me exactly why that car is 'bling bling only'...the extent of the exterior mods are a set of relatively under-stated wheels (which are only larger so the larger brakes would fit), and a functional modification of the rear wing to provide for adjusting the amount of downforce, hardly bling bling modifications.

When I think of 'bling bling' I think of a 360 Spider with an F1 gearbox fitted with a set of heavy and ugly chrome wheels, a $5000 sound system that only adds weight, and a license plate something like '2MCH MNY'.

I'm not saying you know nothing about the car...but it sounds that way, so maybe go and do some research on it before you call it a 'bling bling car'. Its one of the better after-market modifications of a Ferrari, and just because Koenig developed a reputation for doing outlandish cars back in the 1980s, doesn't mean all his cars are like that.

I understand the anger some die-hard Ferrari owners/fans have when someone modifys such a rare and great machine, but this is not some guy slapping on a pair of turbos and calling it a day...they spent lots of time testing and building the car up...and by the way, the owner asked for this turbo kit because he was upset with how slow the F50 was stock...

 

Seriously, you have got to be one of the smartest people on here...

How is that 'bling bling'?

I think HMS' head is a little up his culo...

 

Pleeeeeease.....Didn't Mike Tyson have one of these Konig cars? I think M.C. Hammer had one too. Or was it Vanilla Ice?? Oh, sorry...that was an Avalanch. Doesn't Konig put box flares on his cars? At least the owner of this car passed on the body mods.
A Ferrari is a very special car. An F50 is even more special. A true F-car conusor doesn't place much value on these highly modified F-cars. I'm not saying there is not a market out there but 'most' collectors will take an unmolested car over something like this. Furtheremore, I'll give this motor 1K miles before it gernades..

 

i laugh at people that worry about keeping the car stock, those are the same people that buy the car to look at and not drive. The one gripe about the f50 was the performance. They fixed that. If i were looking for an F-50 this would be high on my list. The cars were made to be driven and raced, not looked at.

 

Seriously. F*ck "collectors". Id much rather the cars be bought by "drivers".

 

Did you read a single word of my previous post?

I guess not.

Answer me this, have you read anything on this car, or are you just making assumptions? The Koenig cars you are thinking of, from the 1980s, were the products of Willy Koenig who had a taste for very flamboyant Ferrari modifications. Walter Koenig, his son, (who has much better taste) is responsible for this F50.

"The tuner's business has changed a lot since then. So too have the cars they build. 'People have become very conservative,' shouts Walter while easing down to a more restrained 170mph. 'Those with a lot of money now no longer want to make others so envious.'" - Peter Grunery from the article "Gone in a Flash" on the Koenig F50 in the magazine Top Gear Supercars

"When the owner first took delivery of his F50, he was disappointed with the performance. He wanted us to make it go quicker, yet the only exterior changes he asked to be made were for purely technical [emphasis added] reasons." -Walter Koenig

"Thankfully the F50's gorgeous carbon fibre bodywork has indeed been mostly left unchanged. The car is so incredibly stable at such seat-squeezing speeds because a tiny adjustable front splitter and a tiltable rear wing have been added to boost downforce suck to the road - aids which cut lap times by a substantial four seconds when the car was taken for testing at the A1-Ring GP circuit." -Peter Grunery

"You may have also noticed this car's 18" magnesium BBS split-rim centre-lock wheels. Again, they've only been changed for a very good reason: the new brakes (380mm front and 335mm rear AP Racing discs, as blagged from a Porsche GT2 race car, matched to six-pot callipers all round) [brake specs added] simply wouldn’t fit behind the standard wheels." -Peter Grunery

All these things are hallmarks of bling bling aren't they?

I completely understand the point you are making here. Undoubtably a stock F50 will be worth more in 10 years time, and the Koenig is not a 'pure' Ferrari. Ok, we have that settled, now why do you insist on calling the Koenig a 'bling bling only' car? It has absolutely none of the attributes of a 'bling bling' car. It is modified, yes, but is that such a crime? Do you think all the members of FChat who own F40s with upgraded turbos, 328s with superchargers, 355s & 360s with aftermarket exhausts, and 550s with new brakes should be labeled as owners of 'bling bling' Ferraris? Obviously those modifications are 'bling bling' in your view, could you give me a list of things you think are 'bling bling'.

So far I've come up with:
-racing brakes
-exhaust system
-downforce producing body modifications
-larger wheels (for the purpose of fitting larger brakes)
-turbo chargers

 

I see you'r point too. However, the only parts that I would "bolt on" my F-car are Ferrari parts. I personally like unmolested and factory pure cars. The F40's you mentioned have, from what I understand, LeMans parts. Wheels are the only area I would go aftermarket and BBS is probably my only choice.
I am glad Koenig's son did not go the way of modding the body like his dad had. The Koenig 308's of the 80's are trading far below untouched/moded cars.

 

Without even getting into what was already mentioned about the difference in company ownership, why are prejudging the company...? Whether or not they made cars for Mike Tyson, MC Hammer or whoever else is no reason to immediately write them off on this F50 - does it look like it has ANY of the aftermarket modifications that the cars of the aforementioned owners had...? i think not. Ergo, you're not mad about what's been done to the car, you're merely pissing on the company just 'cause your bladder is full...

Please tell us what a "true" Ferrari connoisseur is...? There are many collectors out there who have cars that have, at one time or another, been modified, either for aesthetic or functional purposes... Some of these cars are worth LOTS of money because of or in spite of their modifications...

The F50 will most likely be a collectors' item, but it doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon... Prices seem to be slowly declining for F50s... Just like prices for GTOs slipped at one point - and now they're worth millions - but no one knew back then and i doubt anyone even cared... They did to their cars what they wanted because they were DRIVERS or RACERS, not investors... Same as this guy commissioned Koenig to do... He doesn't seem to much care about the flip value, he's more concerned with fun... That's what a "true" Ferrari connoisseur is all about...

 

Collect bottle caps, mugs, shirts, hell even mags, not Ferraris.

 

I stand with NNO and Mclaren Boy on this issue.