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Kreis-sieg Valvetronic Exhaust

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by RyanMpower, Sep 12, 2004.

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  1. RyanMpower

    RyanMpower Rookie

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    #1 RyanMpower, Sep 12, 2004
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    This is my first post, I would like to say hello to everyone! You guys and gals have a great site here. Anyways I just wanted to get everybodys opinion on the Kreis-sieg Valvetronic exhaust system.


    Thanks, Ryan
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  2. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

    Feb 22, 2003
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    Ryan - welcome!

    I guess this system has a vacuum controlled bypass valve? I see what looks like an actuator and two seperate flow tracts from the silencer (which looks a bit small). Other than that looks like many of the rest, which is good and a bit expensive. I'm also assuming it's a German system.

    Again, welcome to the party!
     
  3. albertl

    albertl Formula Junior

    Oct 23, 2002
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    Got a quote for the 360 and is as follows:

    (1) SS $9,000
    (2) Titanium $16,000

    Might sound good but 1/10th the proce of the car....?
     
  4. RyanMpower

    RyanMpower Rookie

    Sep 9, 2004
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    Thanks its a cool site, yea this exhaust has a vacuum controlled bypass valve. I don't know if I would put it on a car or make it a coffee table, its like a piece of art!
     
  5. 348 Turbo

    348 Turbo Formula 3

    Jul 17, 2002
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    Welcome, Ryan.
    Nice exhaust. My sportbike, (an R1), actually comes with a similiar system, (all titanium), staight from the factory. I love it. I bet this is very cool on a Ferrari. I'd love to see and hear one in action!
     
  6. Theo

    Theo Formula Junior

    May 6, 2002
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    Welcome to the site Ryan. There is a lot of information and great people on this site. That exhaust looks awesome.

    Theo
     
  7. Maseroche

    Maseroche Karting

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    Beautiful looking exhaust. Kreis-sieg is actually a Japenese company.
     
  8. Nero308

    Nero308 Karting

    Jan 2, 2004
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    You are correct. That is by Japanese company. The biggest feature of this system is that you can recreate a sound of Ferrari F1 car with an on-ooff switch from inside. They also make for other models.
     
  9. Tubi

    Tubi Formula Junior

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    That exhaust looks amazing!! simply cannot imagine how good the titanium version must sound.....has ANYONE at all heard one of these? i have seen some systems on the diable but not on a f-car......

    With regards to the sound of an F1 car with a switch that is simply awesome.......(but then again it is $16,000!!! ouch!)
     
  10. F40Lover

    F40Lover Karting

    Mar 28, 2004
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    I have a few videos of this exhaust system in action but they are between 3 and 289 MB each so if anyone has any idea on how to post them let me know and I will gladly do so. By the way it is awesome sound!
     
  11. RyanMpower

    RyanMpower Rookie

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    The have videos of the exhaust on www.Eisenhaus.com you guys should check them out.
     
  12. h22gordo

    h22gordo Formula Junior

    May 24, 2004
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    Buddy of mine has this exhaust installed on his 360 Spider.
    I'll snap some pics of it installed.

    To me, when the valves are open, it sounds very similar to a Capristo w/ test pipes. With valves closed, sounds like a Capristo without straight-pipes.
    Sounds good nonetheless, but too pricey.
    I'd rather go with MS Racing Exhaust.
     
  13. hkj

    hkj Rookie

    Sep 3, 2004
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    I have it installed on my 360. The sound is incredible. I like it better than the Capristo. If you shop around, you can find a good deal on the system. I paid only $7,900. It is simply a work of art. The idea of a on/off switch not only controlling the sound, but performance too was a very big attractive point. When the valve is closed, about 20% of the exhaust flow still travels through the cats and muffler utilizing the O2 sensors as not to disrupt the ECU setup. I haven't had any problems with the "check engine" lights. Believe me, after you get it installed, you will wonder how you were able to drive your Ferrari without such a system. They have it available for the Porsche turbo system too which I am thinking of getting.
     
  14. RyanMpower

    RyanMpower Rookie

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    Got any pics I would love to see it on a 360!
     
  15. Tubi

    Tubi Formula Junior

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  16. tako

    tako Rookie

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    I dunno what to say about comments from users with only several posts admiring some new exhaust system, you know what I mean. I have tried almost all the exhaust systems sold in Japan and I don't like systems can't handle heat problems well. That's all I can say without insulting specific product hehe.
     
  17. tako

    tako Rookie

    Nov 4, 2003
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    WOW I also found i have only like 20 posts since ferrarichat switched to vBulletin!!!!!! Where are my past posts!!! haha
     
  18. Murcielago_Boy

    Murcielago_Boy Formula Junior

    May 27, 2004
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    Must say that I agree with Tako. I've said it before on another post somewhere, but I KNOW for a fact that these exhaust systems (I mean the radical Japanese stuff) run extraordinarily hot... (to the point where bodywork was catching fire).
    Thanks but no thanks.
     
  19. tako

    tako Rookie

    Nov 4, 2003
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    Actually, I know someone indirectly who have let that Kreis-sieg use that guy's Gallardo to build their exhaust system. Usually I know Tubi, Larini or some other factories test run the car with their system for weeks but I have seen Kreis-sieg released their system for sale as soon as that guy's Gallardo was returned him. And his car was sitting on the lift for months! I have nothing more to say about it!!!!
     
  20. tako

    tako Rookie

    Nov 4, 2003
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    I also saw some posts by someone trying to sell Kreis-sieg system for Gallardo at lamborghini-chat.com!!
     
  21. RyanMpower

    RyanMpower Rookie

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    Point taken, I don't have many post because I spend most of my time on the M3Forum and here at this site but I don't post much because I am trying to learn more about Ferrari's, but I saw this exhaust and I just had to get everbodys input on it.
     
  22. hkj

    hkj Rookie

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    I have yet to have "running hot" issues on my install.
     
  23. PCH

    PCH F1 Rookie

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    Yes, it's apparent that you don't care for this company but just curious about your statement, "I don't like systems can't handle heat problems well." What exactly are you referring to??
     
  24. SP_wEaZeL

    SP_wEaZeL Formula Junior

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    #24 SP_wEaZeL, Sep 15, 2004
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    Tako, our Kreissieg was installed just in time for the Running of the Bulls in California. The car was on for hours at a time. Til this day, the car hasn't had any cooling problems what so ever. And, this is the full header and exhaust system setup for the 6.0 Diablo. This is by far, the best sounding exhaust system for the Diablos IMO.
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