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  1. Ed Niles

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    And of course the current issue has Mike's article on Kroymans.
     
  2. Marcel Massini

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    Including a photo showing a total replica but unfortunately captioned as a real 250 GT SWB................

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  3. toto70_0

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    #78 toto70_0, Dec 2, 2009
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    I like this picture better of the 4cam. My excusses for using this picture as I didn't take it, I was only I believe 4 years old then, I wish it was in my stable.
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  4. omd78

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    Anyone able to scan the add and article..?

    Gr. Martin
     
  5. tomgt

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    Hope he interviewed/asked Kroymans too, he has also his side of the story.
    It could be different...
     
  6. Marcel Massini

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    See also my post #77...........

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  7. tomgt

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    Correct, his real SWB 1960 is 2365GT STEEL
    The replica was built by Hietbrink as a comp 1961 ALLOY car WITHOUT a chassisnumber (not a donor Ferrari chassis used)
    I do not know which s/n this replica currently uses.
    Both cars are black.

    Tom
     
  8. bigodino

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    I have it as 3725.
     
  9. Marcel Massini

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    As I have mentioned so many times already............
    It is a 250 GTE chassis #3725 GT with engine #4025 with internal #672/62 E.

    Marcel Massini
     
  10. tomgt

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    #85 tomgt, Dec 3, 2009
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    Yes but some only tell stories or do not do their homework very well.
    I've seen photos of this 'donor' GTE in the basement in Hilversum.
    Some thought this car was 2365GT, but it was not a 60 car as everyone could see. For some (or most) stupid to think before checking.....alloy-steel-shape 60-61 etc
    Maybe some parts were used from 3725, but the chassis of the replica swb was completely new manufactured by Hietbrink.
    When this replicar was in the Hilversum showroom and some events, 2365 was undergoing restoration.
    Photo is 2365

    Best
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  11. toto70_0

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    Who cares that #3725GT is a replica or what, I wish it was in my stable as well, it is so beautiful built and runs so fine, there is so much pleasure to get out of that car.
     
  12. richardowen

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    It's important to distinguish fake cars from real ones. That car Mr Sheehan misidentified is probably for sale!
     
  13. Napolis

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    IMO potential buyers should be very careful these days and VERY thoroughly vet every purchase.

    I'd bring a micrometer and a magnifying glass...
     
  14. amenasce

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    Any good pic of the fake Kroyman SWB ?
     
  15. Marcel Massini

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    As mentioned earlier, just see page 39 of Sports Car Market magazine (SCM), issue January 2010, Vol. 22 #1.

    Marcel Massini
     
  16. Kds

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    So which wealthy "American" collector supposedly bought the entire collection anyways ?
     
  17. retired

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  18. of2worlds

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    #93 of2worlds, Jan 27, 2010
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    Jim how about bringing along a magnet? Mr Roush did; much to a certain new owner's chagrin.
    CH
     
  19. readplays

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    Thanks for clarifying. From the sound of the thread earlier, I had assumed it was going to John Shirley.

    Best,

    Dave
     
  20. readplays

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    I'd bring along a Swiss magnet. Only the word for magnet in french, italian, romansh and german isn't magnet- it's Massini.
     
  21. tomgt

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    Just spoke to someone who told: cars will stay here in The Netherlands.......
     
  22. Pim

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    That's great news !!!
     
  23. omd78

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    Awesome!

    Gr. Martin
     
  24. f308jack

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    Geweldig!

    Next question is: who?
     
  25. omd78

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    Right you are. Brings us to the next question Tom: Who is it? Any clues?

    Gr. Martin
     

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