KYLE BUSCH On F1 Future

Probably, and it's obviously a tricky act to balance. Sponsors are tough to come by right now, and while a big name may make an initial splash, these companies investing big money will get tired of their money running mid-field in far-off lands.

 

...'and the beat goes on'...This weekend Kyle won the pole, had an engine change, had to start in 43rd, and won the race today.
No need to make this a nascar vs. F1 debate - this kid is the real deal...I have to believe the Toyota brass will try and get him a serious test this year...
Kevin

 

Someone heard Windsor say Kyle Busch, so they ran to JGR and stuck a mic in Kyle's face and said "Would you like to try F1?" and like a proper, polite, but completely non-committal marketing tool would do, he says... "Oh yeah, sure I'd like to try it". People are reading way too much into all this "who will be USF1's drivers" speculation.

 

Kyle is definately a great driver. I think the keyboard jockey debate is all speculation and for fun. I think the reality is that no US driver that is currently known is a perfect fit out the door. (with the exception of maybe the Formula BMW series champ who is probably a little young still - so not perfect either i guess)

I think it would have to be a very compelling case to take someone who is at the top of the food chain in the series they run to make them want to change. As much as I love F1, If I were a top NASCAR driver, I would probably hesitate to move to a new team in F1 where you could really get chewed up and spit out when they run for a back marker team.

 

yet they are both have gotten famous, rich & laid (by girls WAY out of their league). maybe you should have ridden the short bus with them....

 

That's an awfully lively assumption that relies on a fact which is not present. That being, I would never under any circumstance want to trade places with any nascar driver. period.

Everyone knows the type of kid the Busch boys represent and has seen them before. 99.9999% of the time this type of kid who is brushed off as someone who will never amount to anything and will most likely be in jail at a young age.

As far as driving these stock cars is concerned, I heard it from Ken Schrader himself that they are smooth as a Cadillac and very easy to drive. I have yet to hear anyone say driving an F1 car is easily done. Proof positive is when Jeff Gordon and Montoya swapped cars for the road and track (or car and driver ? ) article. Gordon pretty much made an a$$ out of himself and could barely operate the car let alone drive a good line. Auto journalists gave about the same caliber of laps. Gordon had said he practiced on simulators to no end and had all day with the F1 car while Montoya came within 3 seconds of Gordon's fastest lap almost immediately. Gives me a chuckle every time I think about it.

It's not that one is necessarily better than the other, they are just too different to compare fairly. Bumper car techniques to driving techniques. Both are difficult to master.

 

Sounds like severe jealousy to me.

 

Kyle won both NASCAR road races last year.

 

But of course lol.



Nascar driver in a nascar on a road course is quite different than a nascar driver in a F1 car on a road course. I highly doubt there is anyone in nascar in good enough physical condition to last 10 laps in a F1 ride without a large amount of physical conditioning. The physical demands are astronical. 4g braking does that I guess.

Look at all the drug problems many nascar drivers have while racing. How can anyone call it a sport/racing or whatever you want to call it if you can do it while hopped up on something?

 

Drug problems while racing???? LOL - wow NASCAR gets bashed a lot here, but that's a new one!
Get a life , loser....
Kevin

 

http://nascar.suite101.com/article.cfm/nascar_drug_testing_policy

Nascar has a drug testing policy now for drivers/crews. Aaron Fike admitted to driving under the influence of heroin. Nascar now has random drug testing due to such suspicious activity.

 

I do not know where you got your information about Gordon barely being able to operate the car, but after just seven laps he was only 1.3 seconds slower than Montoya around the track. Let's see you chuckle about that...

 

Sure, takes a lot of strength to just steer and shift gears with your fingers. I guarantee you it is more physically demanding to drive in NASCAR, the g loads are higher, the cars are heavier and they do it for 3 plus hours. I love F1 but those guys are ******* compared to most Cup drivers.

 

That's of NASCAR drivers racing on drugs! Aaron Fike - pretty big name there!
Move along, tool...

 

Simply not true: It takes a lot more physically to drive F1 than NASCAR. You have constantly changing g loads from acceleration and deceleration and the turns. That's why F1 drivers train their neck muscles.

I would think that in a athletic competition F1 drivers outrun, outlast and outwit )) NASCAR drivers. They are in physical top condition. They have to be.

 

NASCAR drivers can lose 5-10 pounds during the course of a race. It definitely is not easy.

 

It's funny how testy everyone is this time of year until the F1 season starts. Then we'll be *****ing about stewards, max, bernie, anyone who is not Ferrari etc...

 

He won everywhere once he changed teams in 2008. When did he win at a road course prior ? He wasn't all that special.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's an excellent Nascar guy, but 'ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL' , JPM and Speed would smoke him in open wheel. Statement stands.

 

I Miss Dale SR

 

No need for anyone to get so defensive here please. I always heard nascar races could get violent though lol. To preface this: I would *love* to see a nascar driver go to F1 and do very well, I really would. I am tired of the rest of the planet laughing at America due to nascar.

fact: Nascar is the laughing stock of the racing world outside the US. However, this can be changed if a prominent nascar driver got a ride and did very well. I certainly hope it does but many obviously have their doubts for many reasons.


fact: Nascar has some reasonably obese men and old men driving and actually doing well which proves it certainly does not require the same physical fitness level which other forms of racing demand, particularly F1 where the driver practically needs a g-suit where 4G acceleration and braking is experiences every few seconds. Nascar is definitely not easy, but the endurance level and constant G forces due to acceleration and braking on such a light/fast F1 car is undeniable. If there were an American driver who could perform it would have to be someone young so they could learn the ropes rather than someone at a later point in their career. The younger of the Busch's perhaps or maybe the 18 year old driver who crashed at Daytona (heard he was good but I really don't follow). Think of it as baseball compared to basketball fitness-wise.

fact: Gordon did have one lap that was 1:16.5 which was only 1.3 off of Montoya's shakedown lap earlier in the day at IMS. Gordon's time was still not good enough to qualify for anything. 1:13 was average race running time that year while pole was 1:10. Gordon's quote: "No, I can see where getting that last second is really tricky,". I believe he could do well given more physical conditioning and practice, but 1.5 slower is an eternity in these races/qualifying and considering Gordon had a car with traction control helping a huge amount (which is banned now) I would say he had more than enough help.

fact: Montoya came within 1.1 seconds of Gordon's best lap which would easily qualify Montoya for any nascar event


Please do not misunderstand me here. I would love to be a flag-waving American with a great American driver in an F1 seat and I certainly hope to see it soon. I don't see it happening with either of the Busch's because they were both such a couple of f*** ups when I knew them. I would not give up my higher education to be a driver for any racing system, but especially not nascar because I knew a couple of top-rated drivers lol. A bartender can make $300k+ a year here in Las Vegas, but they are still nothing more than a bartender at the end of the day.


Regarding drugs in nascar. If anyone here believes the only driver to have/had a drug issue while driving was Aaron Fike, than Obama's latest package does not have federal funding for tatoo removal (which it does, yes, I am serious). Drivers have publically admitted they "know who is doing it or has done it", but they will of course not rat them out, but they want them to stop. Why on earth would they start random drug testing otherwise.

 

Boy are you WRONG.

Now, nascar is not my first love, or second, or third, but the fast guys are special.

How can you explain Kyle Busch going basically nowhere when he drove for Hendrick, he gets dumped so Rick can bring in Jr., and arguably Jr. is doing no better than Kyle did when he was there, and Kyle has been arguably the fastest driver over the last year on a team with LESS a budget than Hendrick ?

And look at the teams that hire 'road course specialists' for the road courses - most of those 'specialists' cannot do any better than the circle jerks, that tells me something.

I don't think that nascar is the laughing stock of racing to those outside the USA, not by any stretch.
Why are F1 guys going to nascar ? JPM isn't blowing the doors off anyone, and why are IRL guys going to nascar ?
Was Hornish BORED or something ?

 

Didn't all 3 drivers have at least a win in F1? Hakkinen might have won... a championship. And the reason they did poorly in DTM is?

 

So MLB, NHL, NFL, fighter pilots are all???

 

So they left the "premier" open wheel series because? Speed was fired and Montoya wanted to finish 23rd {average} every year.

 

Id like to see what Kyle could do in F1 but to be honest JPM is the best all around driver period. Hes done it all IMO and in fact as won in Nascar, F1, and IRL to name a few. Not to mention that this year he isnt doing to bad. Granted it was a road course but he still won a Nascar race in his rookie year. But I will give you this.. You put Kyle in a Ferrari or Mclaren (basically a team with a unlimited budget) then I think he will do well. Hes a great race car driver and I dont think you can deny that. But placing him in a new USA start up team I dont believe he is going to excel in the 3 year time period is has supposedly allotted himself.