LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Yes, their record sales absolutely shows they don't know what customers want- they're so lost nobody buys them anymore, right? Brilliant take.

 

Yeah. There’s a big distinction between purists and the general buying public. The latter will always take precedent, as it should, otherwise the company ceases to exist. Give Ferrari credit for catering to the purists with the Icona series. It’s a balance and I think they’re doing what they can..

 

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I seem to recall Ferrari spending 10 million Euros developing a manual gearbox for the California… the model became the best seller in its history, guess how many customers specced a manual? 10. So much for catering to purists. I don’t think there’s a brand that understands its customers more than Ferrari and they have the order book to prove it.

 

This comment is so factually inaccurate on multiple levels it just isn’t true!


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They are offering the 499P in this market segment. Don't tell me that you are not happy with a Le Mans winning prototype...

The sales numbers prove that you are clearly wrong about that.

 

With wing up it looks like road version 499, truly masterpiece and it is still covered. I cant wait when we see it in full glory.

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Same here! LED under the lights, or reflection? Crazy how I’m trying to dissect every little detail

 

Led it seems.

 

Big Senna vibes.

I'm sure it'll be great - but I'm sorry, I can't get over using a V6 in the halo car when we're still getting stuff like the 12C.

499P link is very cool for sure, but when Lambo is offering a hybrid with similar power AND a V12 for 1/3 the price, you need to ask if V6 is the right approach.

 

Performance of lambo it’s completely different, you don’t buy just engine but a concept much more extreme. Ferrari search extreme performance not just engine. But lambo have revuelto to sale, maybe one for you, save money but drive supercar not hypercar.

 

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LED DRL

 

Yes I would turn it down.

 

That’s one huge wing. I wonder how it operates. Maybe a race mode? Seems very large to be automatically movable to the fullest extent.

 

Could not agree more, plus, V12 does not mean more performance. Here you go, The Lamborghini Revuelto being BEAT by a 296 (with a V6). I do not even need to mention what the SF90 does to the same Revuelto (with a V8), but it's fun to watch! Or I guess not so fun to watch if you own a Revuelto and care about performance.

 

You’d be a very rare breed then. For people who can comfortably afford it and love cars and in particular Ferrari, I doubt anyone turns an allocation down. Whatever the powertrain, the chance to be the first owner and have the driving experience then sell it on after a couple of years for most likely more than it cost you (and maybe significantly more), is compelling for every petrolhead.

The only thing that changes that is if somebody believes it will lose money. That’s a more interesting discussion. It is of course possible but even in this climate I don’t think that will happen but it is a fair opinion if somebody wants to argue it.

 

I'm a purist. The power train is the most important thing to me. I don't care if they make it squirt money, it' still a ****ing V6. Hell, even a family sedan has a V6.

 

Yes. The hypercar should be special in every way. A V6 does not feel very special.

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sorry but I don't buy your comment, if faster is better than why anyone want GT3 RS when there is GT2 RS? this fast Ferraris are turbos and sounds horrible, to make them sounds propper you need to risick massive system errors and turbo issue, install turbo in Revuelto and it will beat 296 ans SP90 by landslide

 

totally agreed, but Enzo was more special than laFerrari and now we will have just continuing declining trend, but this car will keep value and collectors will pay a lot to get one

 

It's a 6.5L N/A V12 Hybrid which is what people want in the Ferrari Halo. and the lambo has it and got wreaked by much smaller engine Ferraris. The V6 going into the F250 is a very special engine in its own right, regardless of the 296 GT3 and 499P that it based from. Then you have electric turbos etc to boot. I just choose to remember the V8TT F40 when it comes to the F250 and then take into account the race breed 499P and GT3s V6TT which won 24hrs of Le Mans back to back and the Nürburgring 24 Hours. When did a Ferrari V12 last win those ? or any major race ? I am a purist and Enzo would be ok with the V6 TT and he left us with the F40 and the V6 is Dino's Legacy too. However I hate the EV and SUV road they are on. The F250 could be one of the GOAT if the board haven't clipped its wings already. Time will tell and D-day is almost here.

 

There are saloons (sedans) with V12s; even Toyota used to build one. Your point is?
A purist is someone with a pure pursuit of something. Unless your pursuit is cylinder count, you are not a purist.

 

Really? In what way?