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LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari' started by Ale55andr0, Dec 24, 2019.

  1. Johnny_Bravo

    Johnny_Bravo Karting

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    I never said it must have a manual gearbox, it can have flappy paddles. I just said it must be very light and without ABS, ESP etc.

    I'm sure Leclerc could drive it very fast even without any electronics.
     
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  3. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Read about GT racing and how the electronics enhance the race cars.
     
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  4. Ale55andr0

    Ale55andr0 Karting

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    more like a coffin with tyres
     
  5. Ale55andr0

    Ale55andr0 Karting

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    Kimi Raikkonen...


     
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  6. Johnny_Bravo

    Johnny_Bravo Karting

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    Why a coffin ?!
     
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  8. Ale55andr0

    Ale55andr0 Karting

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    because without electronic assistance such a vehicle is the best way to center a tree or a concrete wall
     
  9. Johnny_Bravo

    Johnny_Bravo Karting

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    Only if you totally suck as a driver.
     
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  10. willcrook

    willcrook Formula 3

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    perhaps but with 700hp+ cars it gets more risky to not have any driver aids imo from the manufacturers point of view

    a lot of cars would get crashed, if they removed the driver aids from the pista I think a few would get written off for sure
     
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  11. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    These super-powerful cars even catch out F1 Champions, like Kimi on the video above.
     
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  13. Ale55andr0

    Ale55andr0 Karting

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    this
     
  14. Johnny_Bravo

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    That's cause it lacks proper downforce and it's very heavy. Double or triple the downforce, and shed about 500 kg of weight, and Kimi ain't losing it anymore.
     
  15. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Weight has nothing to do with it. If anything, a more leightweight car would be easier to spin. Downforce is relevant, but only at high speeds. Even F1 cars spin and they are on slick tyres.
     
  16. Johnny_Bravo

    Johnny_Bravo Karting

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    Yes, F1 cars can spin too, but they usually spin at high speeds, when the driver is forcing a corner.
     
  17. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Quite the opposite. They tend to spin at slow corners, due to power oversteer.
     
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  18. willcrook

    willcrook Formula 3

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    I’m not arrogant enough to think I’m a great driver but I do have experience in a array of cars, I found radicals (high downforce/ no driver aids) paradoxically harder to drive at slower speeds due to it being hard to adjust for variable grip caused from downforce changing depending on speeds.
     
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  19. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

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    So pretty much spot on?
     
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  20. Jonathan19

    Jonathan19 Formula Junior
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    Yes! I am in love with the Daytona SP3!
     
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  21. Ale55andr0

    Ale55andr0 Karting

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  22. Johnny_Bravo

    Johnny_Bravo Karting

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    Will Ferrari ever make something like this:

     
  23. Solid State

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    Where's the engine?
     
  24. furmano

    furmano Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I’m happy Ferrari made the new Daytona with a V12 and V12 only.

    Might be the last mid-engined V12-only Ferrari ever makes again.
     
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  25. Ilferrarista92

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    When does the LaF successor will be unveiled mid or late 2022?
     
  26. Johnny_Bravo

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    Hopefully 2027, as it should have been in the first place. After the F40, they all arrived too early.
    The F50 should have been in 97 instead of 95, the Enzo in 2007 instead of 2002 and the LaFerrari in 2017 instead of 2013.
     
  27. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    The Enzo and the LaFerrari didn't reference a specific number relating to an anniversary, thus they didn't have to abide by that convention. One can argue that only the F50 came earlier, since it used the "50" reference. As we know though, Ferrari doesn't care about those things.
     
  28. maha

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    I think it will be in 2023 maybe. Day355 said the development of the next hypercar is in advanced stage. Info from autopareri.com , it will be inspired by the next lmh hypercar and will have 1200 hp.
     

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