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LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Ale55andr0, Dec 24, 2019.

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  1. willcrook

    willcrook F1 Rookie
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    I hated the La Ferrari when it came out, now I think it’s beautiful. The Sp3 makes it look even more beautiful in comparison too
     
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  2. JagShergill

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    Sooo true buddy …..
     
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  3. day355

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    Initially, the mirrors had to be on the front fenders, which was a real plus.
    Unfortunately, the doors when opening came to touch them... too bad
     
  4. REALZEUS

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    Nothing unfortunate about that. They did that with the Enzo already.
     
  5. Senad

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    i am usually with you,
    not on this one
    i like the mirrors and locations on laferrari, they are, as is the car it self a timeless masterpiece.
     
  6. ab08

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    When you have time to do it, a drawing on the topic of 812 replacement would be really nice. :D
     
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  7. EmreT

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    Which one will be the absolute flagship, the LaF successor or the road-going version of 499 (as claimed here)?
     
  8. Ilferrarista92

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    499 stradale will be the absolute flagship, but will be very very limited like 25 units.
     
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  9. jpalmito

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    Only rumors right now.
     
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  10. REALZEUS

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    Quite unsubstantiated too...
     
  11. of2worlds

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    ... ;)
     
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  12. 4re4ever

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    Won't be the Flagship if its track only car which it most likely will be.
     
  13. Ilferrarista92

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    I don’t think so because there will be the F250 XX.
     
  14. day355

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    No 499 Stradale for now
     
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  15. Spet00

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    Let them save it for a season where they're going to beat Toyota in the WEC manufacturers' championship... If that's ever happening
     
  16. REALZEUS

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    It would be a nightmare to make the 499 road legal anyway...
     
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  17. of2worlds

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    STILL, something wicked this way comes...
     
  18. Johnny_Bravo

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    They just need to put some headlights on it and it's good to go.
     
  19. REALZEUS

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    Of course not, it's much more complicated than that! Crash testing, pedestrian safety, noise, emissions, reliability, serviceability and also make it driveable and liveable on the road. By the wamy it already has headlights (needed for night racing), but I doubt they are road legal.
     
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  20. jpalmito

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    This.
    I don't see the point of a Valkyrie competitor for a road use.
    F250 will be a more realistic proposition to my opinion.
     
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  21. REALZEUS

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    Even the Valkyrie started out as a road car, even though a very compromised one. The F250 might be as extreme, but it cannot afford to be as compromised. That's why basing a road car on the 499 would be hard to imagine.
     
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  22. jpalmito

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    Agree again.
     
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  23. merstheman

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    4999 "Stradale" would probably be an FXXK style track only car, which as others have said, wouldn't really be the best "flagship" for the brand. In fact it's probably not allowed by the ACO/WEC as testing restrictions would apply, unless the next 499 would already be in competition.

    Bottom line, if the car is track only they'll just sell the works cars to rich customers once they aren't competitive anymore.
     
  24. Johnny_Bravo

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    Well, since it's desgned for endurance racing, I doubt reliability will be an issue.
    And since it has a puny TT V6, noise also won't be an issue.
    CRash testing - again no problem since it's a race car, it's designed to endure big impacts.
    Emissions - againno issue since it's a hybrid.
    The only problem I see is pedestrian safety.

    That's why I said it's gonna need them.
     
  25. REALZEUS

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    All of these are issues.
    Endurance racing means a few thousand miles and then a rebuild. The engine will have to last for much longer than that on a road car and without a specialist crew to take care of it.
    Crash testing for road cars is different. The forces should not exceed a certain limit, even if the cabin remains intact, nor the occupants to come into contact with hard surfaces. You don't wear a helmet with a HANS on the road, nor are you strapped still in a bucket. They would have to make some changes.
    Cylinder count has nothing to do with noise. You can have a one cylinder engine that deafens the world. The V6 would still need to be silenced.
    Ditto with emissions. Racing engines don't even have cats, the engine would need to be re-engineered and a PPF added also.
     
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