Wanted Lancia Delta HF Integrale *or* Renault 5 Turbo (any gen)

fwiw there is a Facebook north America lancia delta group- you will prob have better luck there...

 

A good friend and coworker is selling his Integrale Evo 1 come spring. Ex-Japan, ex-Dubai and now near Toronto. I've had the pleasure of working on it a bit and going for track days. It has a fair amount of work done to it and a few upgrades, but still needs dialing in and a new front bumper (ate a cone at the last event). PM me if interested, I'll put you in touch. I posted a couple of pics of it in the Delta thread.

 

When you are looking at cars, consider that there are basically 3 versions to chose from: 8V, 16V, and 'Evo'. The later cars are more expensive, mostly because of rarity as there is no performance difference across different years of the same setup. The differences in years of Evo cars are all basically paint and badges, not mechanical differences year to year.

The cars are a delight to drive. The steering is impeccable. The car has a lovely purr that's not obnoxiously loud by any means. While not a GT, they work for long distance far better than you would think, and yet are still great tossable sports cars on curvy roads.

Registering my 8V in Virginia was simple, with no difficulty as I had a clean title in hand from CT.

 

Euro Classix in California typically has a couple of Delta Integrales available

https://euroclassixcars.com/collections/for-sale

 

I have a friend with a really nice R5 Turbo 1 that could be for sale.

Please PM me to discuss.

Thanks

 

+1 FB is malware.

 

I have purchased a few vintage Lancia's from "The Barn in Miami" they currently have one in stock but it is in a fairly garish trim. If you can wait for a period of time, I also go to Padua about every year and they have several for sell. The Yellow one here was from 2019 and I was trying to purchase for a customer but the deal never culminated.

Also I work on these and I am just a little south of you in North Carolina, if you need parts or service I can help. The one below got a turbo and radiator and was in the shop this past summer, and I have 3 customers that own them. The Shops name is BIF Motors
Kevin

 

How reliable are these? Getting parts?

 

They are not up to say the level of a 105 alfa for getting parts but they are not too bad. I use Tanc Barratt in the UK for getting most of the parts for the Integrale's and I use some Italian suppliers also but not as much as I should mostly due to my poor ability to communicate in Italian.

Mechanical parts are relatively easy to find, but body and trim pieces are more difficult. I had a customer hit a deer with his and sourcing a hood, bumper and windshield was difficult but not impossible. Parts prices are higher than say an Alfa 105 but compared to an in period Ferrari 360 they are cheap.

A couple of side notes - the bumpers are just for show, they weigh about 4 pounds and they would probably fail if you hit anything larger than a bumble bee. If you want the driving experience of an Integrale at a much lower price get an Alfa Romeo 155 Q4, it is the same car underneath but doesn't have looks of the Lancia, in fact the Alfa looks pretty boring.

 

I thought I was the only person cross-shopping the Integrale Evo and R5 Turbo . Interestingly enough, I settled on an S2 Exige in the end—easier in California.

If you do find a Delta, as mentioned, definitely join the North America Integrale group on Facebook. I also avoid Facebook and deleted my profile for years, but it’s very useful for certain, unique groups. This group has tons of information on where to find parts, manuals, and mechanics. Your other community option is Evocorner but it’s not as popular. Hope this helps!

 

these guys are very easy to buy from for the USA guys...
https://automoda.net/inventory/

 

I was planning on selling my R5 Turbo 2 on BAT.
Send me a PM.

 

Unfortunately I think the market for the Integrale has left you. I think you can blame the US 25 year for a good part of that price increase and that the people who were in their teens and early twenties during the Group B days are now in their prime earning years. It may come down in the future but it is going to probably take many years.

If you just want the driving experience of an Integrale buy an Alfa Romeo 155 Q4. It is the same car under the skin and you can find a late model one for under 20k.

On a personal level I have driven several Integrale's of all generations, and even though I grew up a big Rally fan, I really don't care for driving them. I am not a fan of 4 wheel drive for sporting driving. I have no doubt that it is faster than 2 wheel drive, but I have been lucky enough to drive an 037 stradale and found it substantially more fun to drive, but they are north of 300k for one now. On the lower end of the scale even the Lancia Beta Volumex and Fiat Abarth 130 TC put more grins on my face than the Integrale and they are FWD. Perhaps it is just me but driving an Intergale was definitely a case of don't meet your hero's.

 

If you a delta integrale evo doest get your blood moving im not sure what does. Way more fun that my f12 tdf

 

I just sold my 550 Maranello.....but the R5 Turbo is much harder to think about selling. It is a lot more fun car to drive.

 

+1 the R5 Turbo. There sure aren't too many!