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Discussion in 'Other Italian' started by BLUROAD, Sep 20, 2007.

  1. kens

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    I cannot wait to see the results. You get an A+ for going down the high budget path.

    My Lancia project runs a bit of Ferrari DNA also. The exhaust is a heavily modified F355 muffler. The F355 silencer does not fit and is heavy, yet it seems to sound good and it is stainless steel. Also, utilizing Blu Pozzi for the paint.
     
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    F40 tail lights are the same as the 308s and I think they’re too big. For me, the one from Opel GT looks proportionately correct and a lot cheaper.
     
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    Anyone have spare Scorpion seats? Fabric condition doesn’t matter, frame and mechanical condition.
     
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    There are some seat backs with no upholstery on eBay currently, but I don't know of any complete seats. Since the seats are the same as in the 037 Stradale, I suspect values are on the rise and the seats are tough to find. Owners used to put full-on racing seats in Stradales in an effort to make their cars more like the Group B race versions. With 037 prices on the rise, buyers are once again seeking originality.

    As for the Ferrari style taillights, to each their own. I feel like the ties to the 029SE and 037 are strong enough that there's no need for Ferrari-esque touches. Of course, you could go to a mesh rear panel and single 850 Coupe tails per side if you wanted to emulate the 037 Corsas.
     
  5. Tony K

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    I think that the Scorpion and Montecarlo are great looking cars in their own right (both variants), and agree that there is no need for Ferrari-esque touches. Paolo Martin is an accomplished designer, and the Montecarlo/Scorpion stands on its own as a beautiful design.
     
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    I love these cars...I must add one to the hoard.
     
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  9. Tony K

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    Two interesting Scorpions for sale in Hemmings right now. Number 1805 (the last Scorpion made), and number 037 (cool for obvious reasons):

    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/lancia/scorpion/2230443.html

    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/lancia/scorpion/2228995.html


    I tend to prefer vehicles to be cosmetically stock, or at least period correct or "in keeping with the spirit"; but I don't mind a lot of what I see on 1805. I'd probably lose the X1/9 wheels in favor of the bow ties or 14" Beta wheels, re-chrome the tail lamp surrounds, put the carpet pieces that belong on the lower door panels, and go back to a stock (or at least different) steering wheel and gear knob . . . but those things are all minor. The blue fabric I am strangely okay with -- it reminds me of some Italian car interiors from the 1980s. Considering what's there -- 2-liter, cams, carbs, gears, suspension, paint, the overall condition, history, and being the very last Scorpion, it has a lot to be desired.

    As for the gold one -- early production, appears mostly complete and largely intact, desirable serial number . . . perfect basis for a sympathetic restoration. Has the potential to become a very nice example.

    I suspect there is a certain contingency of the "FIAT/Lancia" crowd stuck in 2003 who will moan when they see the asking prices, but I say let the market decide. Original Scorpions and good Scorpions are now rare, and Montecarlo values are (and have been) healthy for a while; there is no reason these sellers shouldn't at least be asking what they are.

    Cheers,

    Tony K.
     
  10. TheMayor

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    The interior of Scorpions is an acquired taste. I always thought it was what brought the cars down a peg. The exterior can be rather attractive but the interior....

    Every one I have seen has rust issues.
     
  11. hyenahf

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    interior rocks... funky 70s modern. let down by the fragile and creaky plastics. like the 308 i get a kick out of folks trying to get out of the car will the hidden release handle... :)

    interesting with the alfa 5 lug wheels... why the change in hubs or bolt pattern?
     
  12. kens

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    Good question, I have to say it relates to the brake upgrade. Each corner has a disc and fixed Brembo caliper from the front of an Alfa Milano (Alfa 75). The hubs were modified from 4x98 to 5x98 by filling three and drilling, tapping four. Before investing in paint and interior, the brakes proved to be most capable on a track day adventure.

    The tires are beginning to get a bit old and I have a lot of wheels that want to be applied. Yet, nothing will be near as light as the Campagnolo wheels which are about 16 lbs.

    Did I mention that the brake upgrade is due to the Alfa V6 upgrade? A 3.0 24V from a 2002 Lancia Thesis has been implanted.
     
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  14. Mang

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    I like the Blaupunkt equalizer on a stalk!
     
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  15. hyenahf

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    mikes period correct personal steering wheel is cool as well
     
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  16. hyenahf

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    nice, ive seen one of the really early afla v6 red monte conversions in England about 20yrs ago... it was very nicely done as well.

    have you tried the alfa gtv6 ronal A1 dealer option 15x7s? they fit nice and arent too heavy. i had the alfetta 4x98 version on mine. i like em since they are an inch wider and the offset work perfectly.

    many years ago, i used to track my scorp as well and you are correct, the brakes on a S1 are awful and down right dangerous. i tried removing the booster to the fronts and regain rear balance with a 124 caliper. not an ideal set up unless you a have twin MC and an adjustable proportion valve. now i hear there are all sorts of brake conversions available. it sure would have made my life easier :)

    thankfully i removed about 200lbs to help out the brakes. surprisingly I found the scorp was a pretty quick little car on the circuit with great turn in, good traction and a very nimble chassis in were u can dial in whatever slip angle you want in or out of a corner. for a mid engine car to "back it in or trail brake" with ease was pretty impressive though it can still bite you. i recall by one time i was trying to knock a cone off an exit of the corner with the rear end of the car it! It easily outpaced b18 integras, e36 bmw, and 1.8 miatas that were prevalent at the time. mine was juiced up to 130-160hp? who knows i wish i would have dyno'ed it.
     
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