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Large 308 Front Spoilers ... Damage Prone?

Discussion in '308/328' started by dave80gtsi, Sep 15, 2004.

  1. dave80gtsi

    dave80gtsi Formula 3
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    I have a 308 which has the smaller front spoiler, and I have always admired the appearance of the larger optional "cow catcher" front spoiler for these cars. However, before I make the plunge to swap mine for a larger one, I'd first like to hear some feedback from other owners of 308's who already have these larger spoilers. How vulnerable are these to damage due to impact upon curbs and the like? Are they low enough that one has to swerve to avoid even the tiniest bumps in the road? Or, instead, is there sufficient ground clearance such that potential damage due to normal curbs and the like is not an issue? Does the larger front spoiler actually improve cooling air flow thru the radiator, and is it really effective at keeping the nose of the car pinned to the ground at speed ... or is it basically just a nice looking decoration?

    Thanks and Cheers - DM / Ohio
     
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  3. spang308

    spang308 Formula Junior

    Jul 17, 2004
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    Unless you're very careful, you can plan on fixing and repainting a euro spoiler every other year. It will hit the tarmac going over a dip and if you overshoot the approach to the local deli and whack a parking block, it's toast.
    That said, I have one on my '84 GTB QV and I wouldn't have it any other way. Looks awesome and certainly has an effect on keeping the nose planted at speed. Mine's cracked right now but I've been having too much fun driving it lately. Fix and repaint over the winter I suppose.

    John
     
  4. mk e

    mk e F1 World Champ

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    I have a GTO spoiler on mine and can tell you 3 things.

    1st it looks way cool.
    2nd it collects a lot of stone chips.
    3rd groundhogs do not fit under it....
     
  5. LP400S

    LP400S Formula 3

    May 18, 2002
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    No problems with mine during about 10 years ownership of the car. Looks much better with it and I believe it does pull in more air for better cooling. Of course I take it easy on steep driveways etc..
     
  6. fastaone

    fastaone Karting

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    Well said spang.....But i DOES HURT when you hear grinding got it fix 2 time already this year but I still love it.
    Peter
     
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  8. LP400S

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  9. enjoythemusic

    enjoythemusic F1 World Champ

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    The Euro also helps aerodynamically (if you drive to the point where it helps). Sure it scrapes now and then, so what. It is fiberglass and easily fixable. Stone chips and the like, so what??? It simply means you are using the car as Enzo and G-d intended :)
     
  10. spang308

    spang308 Formula Junior

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    Peter,
    Trust me I can relate. That grind is enough to make you/me cringe, but man do they look good.

    SteveM,
    That picture tells the story.....
    'nuf said!
    Beautiful car!

    John
     
  11. pma1010

    pma1010 F1 Rookie

    Jul 21, 2002
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    Dave
    I had the "cow catcher". Great looks, but always being banged around at the track/taking the car off the trailer etc. I had it repaired in a fairly major way, but when I nailed it in a fairly big way last time I did some more research. QV told me they use the shallow spoiler at the track for this reason. $1500 later a shorter one was on the car and painted. This isn't something I want to do more than once.
    Philip
     
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  13. theredkite

    theredkite Rookie

    Aug 6, 2004
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    My experience: never had a problem with the deep spoiler on the road, even going over some pretty hefty bumps. But going around a car park for example no matter how slow I went sometimes it caught. A horrible noise but when I looked at it couldn't see any damage done. So I reckon go for it. (Although I am talking about UK roads - maybe there are deeper potholes Stateside...?)
     
  14. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    May 4, 2001
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    I have one on my 84 308 and I never have liked it. After 7 years, the last straw came 2 weeks ago at a hotel. I have a US version on the paint shop now and will be putting it on next week.
     
  15. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Lots of swapping has been done over the years...to each his own...

    A EURO spoiler would be correct for a EURO car, IMO...but there's been so many changed, it's not a big deal.

    I like the shorter one better, to my eye, so the cars I've purchased have that one.....and a front nerf bar as well.
     
  16. tuttebenne

    tuttebenne F1 Rookie

    Mar 26, 2003
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    17 years with a Euro deep spoiler. Yes it will rub on driveway aprons if you don't pay attention to how you approach them. Are they more damage prone? I don't think so, its the driver who would be more damage prone.

    They DO however starve the front brakes of cooling air IMO. I had to build my own ducting to keep the pads from fading at the track.

    Good luck with your decision,

    Andy
     

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