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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Zarathustra, May 23, 2009.

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  1. of2worlds

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    Great info David! Neat coincidence with the serial numbers to. Best of luck with your Daytona.
    CH
     
  2. Zarathustra

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    Well, we are honored to have pictures of the last plexi!
    Good looking car!

    Now the first pop-up is a different problem, because it didn't follow the last plexi.
    Candidates for the first pop-up are:
    13361, the first USA prototype, or
    13893, the first USA car.

    That is unless Enzo decided to send the first pop-up to someone obscure...

    Cheers,
    Gentlemen
     
  3. John Vardanian

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    Not knowing the reason for this little oddity about RHD Daytonas is driving me nuts. Every car I have noted over the years has been this way. Why do RHD cars' shifters have boots?

    john
     
  4. Daytonafan

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    They were fitted by the UK importer for some reason. At the same time the importer was fitting the rear ferrari word badge to Dinos.

    I'm not sure if the boots need to be removed for Classiche? as they didn't leave the factory like that?
     
  5. 328dgtb

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    I was thinking of removing the boot on mine, I prefer the open gate look. Presumably just unscrew the two screws and pull it over the lever?

    David
     
  6. Wheels1

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    #56 Wheels1, Jul 21, 2011
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    Ok that would make sense
    Does any one have pic's of any USA Daytona's with chassis numbers in the 13893-14121 range as there was quite a few to see if they have plexi or pop ups?
    13893
    13929
    13941
    13969
    13991
    13999
    14013
    14015
    14019
    14023
    14029
    14045
    14063
    14077
    14079
    14081
    14083
    14085
    14097
    14101
     
  7. rossodino

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    Hi Grant, no USA production Daytona's were built with plexi front ends, the DOT would not allow any cars with glass or plastic covering up a headlight in those days. There reasoning was over a period of time as the glass or plastic aged it could obscure the effectiveness of the headlights. This is why you also saw the XKE and the Porsche 911-912 also lose there glass coverings as well.
     
  8. Wheels1

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    Thanks
    Well if that's the case, which it sounds like it is, that would make 13893 the first production car with pop up lights, 14121 the first in the uk with pop up lights and 14119 the last plexi car in the world?
    It would be be nice to see a pic of 13893 if anyone has one to confirm this?
    Grant
     
  9. Edward 96GTS

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    13999 has pop up headlights, square corners, not radius. it is the 7th usa daytona.
    ed
     
  10. 328dgtb

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    Hi John, PM sent.

    David
     
  11. IanB

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    David,
    just unpick the stiching on the seam of the boot for about half it's length, then simply push the boot down over the metal shift gate which lives underneath. Easy to resurrect the boot later by restitching - which you'd need to do if you concours the car.

    I do not believe that Maranello UK fitted the boot, UK cars came from the factory with them. My car was collected from the factory by it's first owner (Dudley M-S) and it has the boot.

    Ian
     
  12. Rock

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    14083, usa pop up lamps
     
  13. Steve Ahlgrim

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    Per the door ID tag,#14029 was built January 1971 and should have engine B844. I did not check the actual number. It has pop up headlamps.
     
  14. Edward 96GTS

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    13999, the seventh usa daytona, with pop up headlights.
     
  15. Dogdish

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    Pop up, square lights

    Bill
     
  16. Alan Berro

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    Plexi vs. pop-up seems very confusing. Were there any production Euro pop-ups made prior to 14175? I am trying to figure out if it was an option on an early 1971 model manufactured in September of 1970.
     
  17. Marcel Massini

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    Pretty sure you received my direct email in the meantime.
    There was a production overlap between plexi and pop-up headlight Daytonas.
    Plus some plexi were immediately modified to pop-ups, within weeks after production.
    The ONLY way to know is to have a period photo showing a particular car with a particular license plate to properly identify it and to see if plexi or pop-up.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  18. Protouring442

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    I don't think that's actually the reason. The 1965 Imperial had glass covers over the headlights, and while they were illegal in some states, they were accepted by the DOT. I think the reason the Daytona headlights were an issue is height.

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    Photo source: https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hcc/2011/09/Imperial-Impressions---1965-Chrysler-Crown-Imperial/3703591.html
     
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  19. 375+

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    US DOT regs from MY 1968 banned the covered headlights. Note Jaguar E Type from 1968, 365 GT 2+2 US version and others.
     
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  20. Protouring442

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    Interesting... thanks! I always thought the Etype was height as well as the US headlights stood proud of the fenders. And now I know! LOL
     
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  21. pauls

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    Do you know where 14233 is located? I used to own this car.
     
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