leaked documents from Piquet & FIA

http://joesaward.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/renault-world-council-dossier-2009.pdf

(sorry --- I prefer when making a post to include the text, but the document is 59 pages long)

interesting reading

 

whow...that is some heavy @#$%

Thanks

 

So who wants to be the first to make a little outline so that we don't have to wade through 59 pages?

 

you find my outline in the Massa 08 Champ thread. referring to the relevant pages and paragraphs.
What is really good reading though is the last pages of pit-pit and pit-car comm. I shows how little Clue Briatore actually has and how much he is not involved in the racing operations and that Pat is the actual guy who pulls the strings.

 

Okay I will copy paste my replies from the other thread:


Paragraph 12 from the Statement made by Nelson jn to the FIA:

" During these discussion <with Pat Symonds>, no mention was made of any concerns with respect to the security implications of this strategy, either for myself, the public or other drivers. The only comment in this context was one by Mr. Symonds who warned me to "be careful", which I took to mean I should not hurt myself."

My comment: Clearly Symonds had discussed this with Flavio. That comes clear from the previous statement and who was present at what stage of these 'meetings'. So they clearly did not display a concern for the public of the other drivers.

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My Comment: And for those that think Alonso did not know, well as a pro driver he should have.

See Supplemmental statement by Nelson:

Paragraph 13: "they discussed in the pre-race briefing the strategies and that Alonso would pit at lap 12 and Nelson a lot later."

My comment: Here you just have to assume that at that moment a top tier driver like Alonso would ask questions, which he did not. Especially how we know from the Spygate transcripts how involved Alonso gets in testing, strategy etc.

..and just a side note for those that think, well they were simply running two different strategies.

Night race
Street Course.

As we know from Monaco, passing is very difficult. So moving forward with a light fuel load on a heavier car ahead is still very unlikely and does not work on a low speed street crcuit like Monaco or Singapore. These strageties only work on high speed courses. And Pat Symonds knew that since he clearly says they will not be able to go past Nakajima once they run on him.

So...yes, Alonso knew!
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My Comment: ...and assuming that the FIA and F1 would have taken the 'allegations' made by Nelson Sn. serious when he raised them in October of 2008, they could have then looked at the telemetry and interviewed Jr under oath, when he would have likely spilled the beans.

The telemetry was used to further the investigation (paragraph 3.7 and paragraph 5 of the Stewards Report to the FIA). Since that is the obvious first place to look after video, the FIA had that handy in October of 2008 and could have reached the same conclusion as they did in the "Stewards Report to the FIA" of August 2009 after the Jr. Interview and his "Supplement Statement".

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Point to Alonso in his interview with the Stewards though he said:

"..the question of strategy was one that he largely left to his engineers" and earlier that "..fueling him short was an agressive strategy but one that was reflective (to him at least) of he fact that he had qualified unexpectantly low and in these circumstances he would not benefit from adopting a strategy similar to those ahead of him."

My comment: Now although that makes sense, then who would he not question that they were running a completely different strategy on Nelson who was sitting right next to him at the starting grid?

but then everybody will believe what they want.

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What speaks then against Alonso is coming from the Stewards report paragraph 26:
in the second interview with Symonds he states to the Stewards that "Mr. Alonso had reminded him (Symonds) <of a situation>, when full throttle had been applied by Mr. Alonso in circumstances where there had been wheel spin"

Now why would Alonso tell Symonds about a defense for what cleary leads to 'deliberate' unless he was involved?

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