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  1. smg2

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    #1 smg2, Mar 27, 2006
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    okay today i decided to tackle some issues, the leather has been spray dyed by one of the PO's and the job was done badly. to thick and over spray everywhere. i busted out the so called 'no smell' turpintine to attempt a removal of the caking mess, nope no go the turpintine had no effect and good too since that stuff make me want to puke, and gives me a nice rageing migrane. so i go get my best partner in crime my one gallon container of acetone, i could huff this stuff if i got high on it, the smell is to me at least a warm fuzzy sweater on a cold day mmmmmmm. alright back to work, i went through a pile of shop rags and the laquer was still on thick. for now it looks new again but i would like to completly strip it and start over, i just have a fear it's goning to take a few gallons of acetone and massive mess of rags. i have included pics of the drivers seat and the passenger seat, the drivers is still bad i did the passenger one today.

    now for some other fun, the vaccum controled AC/Vent controls were acting up lately and i went to investigate why i couldent get the defroster to work. this would be on a mondi 8 for those still reading. i took a look into the vacuum can under the kick panel in the passenger side and all was well. so i traced it back to the engine compartment where i found it had popped off the union tee, easy fix and explained the lack of cold idle upon start-up. hey two fixes in one, i'm not going to ever get that again i just know it. now looking at the vacuum line i notice what seems to be a check valve in-line with the vacuum hose to the brake booster. i go check the parts manual and sure enough there is one, however the diagram in the book does not match what's on the car. according to the book it goes booster--line--valve---line---tee union/split to vacuum can---valve---manifold. the car was setup with tee after the second valve so when idling to a stop or stopped at ildle for any leangth of time i would slowly have to increase pressure to stay stopped, the can was not being used to maintain a vacuum. hooked it back up the correct way and now the brakes work even better when the engines at idle.

    i'm still trying to get the defroster sorted, it works but marginal. if i increase tha fan speed it only asthmaticly puffs more air onto the windshield, i hope i don't have to dig into the box under the dash and look at the vacumm dashpots. the AC condensor fan in the driver fender is running all the time even when the AC is off, any ideas?
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  2. snj5

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    #2 snj5, Mar 27, 2006
    be sure your under dash manual vents are closed; they can rob pressure from the common plenum in your fan box that feeds the defroster.
    If you have a Workshop Manual for the Mondial 8, a diagram is on H-10, Figure 6. These are called "lateral vents" and are labeled "F" in the drawing.
    When you look under the dash, they will look like the round plastic vents (like on the dash sides) that must be manually closed.

    Good luck!
     
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    #3 snj5, Mar 27, 2006
    Change the relay. I've had many of my relays sequentially fail to the point I am convinced this is a finite service time item and should be changed, especially the metal bodied ones.
     
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    #4 smg2, Mar 27, 2006
    oddly the mondi 8 does not have these vents. most likely ethier a vacuum accuator is no good or a line is pinched/broken. those vents most likely were added after 1982. the box under the dash controls the air flow via doors that are opened/closed based on the buttons pushed. i'll need to look into the switch and accuators now.

    i also think the micro fan switch for the AC is giving me trouble as the condensor fan is always running 'thinking' the pressure is too high.
     
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    #5 smg2, Mar 27, 2006
    more of a reason to scrap the AC alltogether.
     
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    #6 snj5, Mar 27, 2006
    That is odd as the Mondi 8 Workshop manual shows them pretty as you please specifically for the Mondial 8.
    As I read this two things must happen then to redirect flow: the flapper valve to the defroster vent opens (which sounds like it is at least partially doing if not all the way) and the flap valve must close the mid dash vents. I would next look at taking the front middle A/C dash vent out (pops straight out starting from below as I remember) and physically watch to see if the flap is closing securely or if there is sign of an air leak when the defroster is on.

    Was also thinking as your car is 25 years old, the condensor or heater fins may be clogged. May could remover the windsheild wiper arms and unscrew the vent grill at the outside base of the windshield to see if the intake is clogged.

    Good luck -- this may eventually happen to all of us so am following with great interest...
     
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    #7 smg2, Mar 27, 2006
    i'm thinking it's mostly just the vacuum accuator for the defroster door as the normal cabin vents blow strong and clear. temp cock works fine also (side note, one day i'll get around to sending in the WSM page desribing playing with the cock to get warm water to Maxim)

    My WSM does not show the under vents at all and i spent quite some time upside down looking for them too, not there. the pic you posted in the other thread also shows two AC condesors in the front bumper where as on my Mondi 8 there is only one and it sits just in front of the driver side tire. the WSM is N.281/83 i'm assuming the 83 to mean 1983 as i couldn't find a published date.

    i'll keep you all posted as i dig.
     
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    #9 DougS026, Mar 28, 2006
    Hey, while I'm at my computer posting, any ideas on my heater control? Its either full on hot or nothing. I haven't taken a look at it yet but was interested if either of you have experienced the same or heard of it?
     
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    #10 snj5, Mar 28, 2006
    I think my Mondial 8/QV WSM is a later version I guess on the vent issue.

    I think the M8 valve is mechanically controlled by the dash lever while QV and later have an all electric 'computerized' system (not such an improvement). Would look at the mechanical linkages for smooth operation.

    Then again, my M8 specific expertise is solely based on my Ferrari WSM, so may not be accurate in reality... :) :)
     
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    #11 smg2, Mar 28, 2006
    there is a according to ferrari "cock lever" that acuates the valve, basicly the lever for making it hot/cold has a cable attached to it that operates the valve for the heater. look under the controls to make sure it is still attached, if so then the problem may be at the other end or the valve itself. does your fan speed still work correctly? if not there is a fuse in the body of the knob under the control panel you'll see a plastic screw head with a flat screwdriver indentation, screw it open and a fuse will slide out.
     
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    #12 smg2, Mar 29, 2006
    my old BMWs used that same elctro valve for the heater and it always was trouble. looks like the ferrari one might be the same bosch unit.
     

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