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  1. Easyrider7467

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    #1 Easyrider7467, Jun 9, 2009
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    Hello,
    This is more of an FYI then anything else. I use Leatherique with fantastic results at least twice per years on my 328's seats and leather trimming. Always great results - ALWAYS.

    This time I wanted to try a technique used by a member. It was to place the seat in a plastic bag. Sounds great and it was until I didnt realize something. I didnt notice the plastic bags I use have a "Caution" on them in ink, using a dot-matrix font on the exterior surface.. All was going real fine until I remove the seat from the bag and decided that I would not put the seat back in but will lay the bag over the seat. WRONG !!!!!! HERE IS WHERE MY ERROR OCCURS.

    The exterior of the bag, (yes, your on the right track) where the type was;, remember that caution? YUP, it transffffferred, you hear me. I'm stuutttering now ........ It transefered to my flawless, beautiful leather seat !!! I honestly didnt know if I should YELL or get into a hysterical bit of sick laughter.......

    The pics below are the largest ones. Others are small bits of font. Its this large one on the upper left bolster that is the worst.
    Any input is surely appreciated, currently I'm commucating with George from Leatherqiue on a solution...
    I have already tried some approaches from detailing forums - no good....
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  2. volkster999

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    #2 volkster999, Jun 9, 2009
    I would try soaking it in the Leatherique rejuvenator and then using the Leatherique cleaner.
     
  3. Easyrider7467

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    #3 Easyrider7467, Jun 9, 2009
    I'm gonna try it again - soaking it in rejuv. I have a cotton pad that is saturated with it just laying on it.

    What do you think about just dying that small area?
     
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    #4 Todd Helme, Jun 10, 2009
    Leather Master's Ink Leather Ink Remover.
     
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    #5 Easyrider7467, Jun 10, 2009
    Thanks I found their website tonight gonna give it a shot.

    Overall, my seat still looks outstanding. Just bummed....
     
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    #6 mgv1, Jun 10, 2009
    I had similar ink on a Jaguar interior and used 98% alcohol on the tip of an earbud swab stick.
    First test on a piece of the same type plastic bag to make sure the alcohol dissolves the dye. If it does try a hidden section of leather to make sure there's no discoloration damage, do not rub just use plenty of swabs slightly dampened with alcohol until it all comes off. Don't rush and replace swab as soon as it gets color on it. You will have to treat the leather again in the spot where the dye was but that's an easy job.

    Hope it all works out for you.
     
  7. rizzo308

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    #7 rizzo308, Jun 10, 2009
    sorry to hear about your dilema good luck in removing it .......whats the bag technique please explian....
     
  8. Easyrider7467

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    #8 Easyrider7467, Jun 10, 2009
    I tried the alcohol but some of the dye started to transfer to the swab tip, so I stopped.

    The plastic bag was used to keep the leatherique from drying out to quickly.

    My seats look INCREDIBLE from using the Leatherique, too bad this has occurred.

    I recently read that "cuticle remover" will take off ink. gonna give it a shot.
     
  9. volkster999

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    #9 volkster999, Jun 10, 2009
    I would think that if Leatherique softened the ink enough for it to transfer to the leather, then it should soften it again and lift it out of the leather. Leatheriques cleaner should then remove it, all without any risk to the leather. I'm concerned that introducing new chemicals into the mix may change things enough to prevent the leatherique from working. If the soaking and cleaning with Leatherique doesn't work, then its time to try something else. Just trying to be safe.
     
  10. Easyrider7467

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    #10 Easyrider7467, Jun 11, 2009
    Gonna re-apply copious amts of leather rejuv and let it sit for a few days.

    Also, going to see if I can find a swatch somewhere on the seat, (any suggestions where?) and get it over to George for some dye.

    Anyone know the leather code for an 1989 328 GTS?

    I must say that George has been very patient with me and we have been communicating via email towards a solution.

    Waiting to hear from a couple of members that I sent PM's to for their input.

    Thanks everyone...
     
  11. Bullfighter

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  12. F1Ace

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    #12 F1Ace, Jun 12, 2009
    ....like me!

    Well, I'm no expert, but first you'll need to clarify.

    When you say "I use Leatherique", do you mean you redyed your seats, or you used
    the Leatherique Conditioner? I'm assuming you redyed your seats.

    I don't know, but I would try all the suggestions here and only use mine as a last resort.

    If you still have some Leatherique dye there should be no problem just doing that little area.
    That's the beauty of redoing leather yourself, problems like this are a joke. You can relax,
    whether it's this or some time later when you accidentally scuff your seat. You have the
    stuff on the shelf and you just fix it yourself.

    It's been a while, but as I recall, I would just take the problem ink off with the (yes we
    all know it's potent) Lacquer Thinner, just the damaged area, and shake up that bottle
    of Leatherique dye, and apply the dye to the damaged area with a rag. Do two coats,
    and sort of fade it out and you should never even know it happened, 'cause you're using
    the same dye mix.

    But if you didn't redye your seats you could try two other ideas:
    1-Go to a good Car Detailing shop (or several). Recently one got paint off one of my leather
    seats (another car) that I couldn't, and I have no idea how.

    2-You may want to try http://www.leatherrenew.com/ if you are trying to match a factory color.
    I don't know if Leatherique is as good at this as Leatherrenew is.

    Hope that helps!

    Wes
     
  13. Easyrider7467

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    #13 Easyrider7467, Jun 12, 2009
    Wes,
    I didnt dye my seats with leatherique. I was doing my yearly pre -summer Rejuv and Pristine clean, (and I'm preparing for a Concours too). The Leatherique didnt cause this, is was my anal retentive self to get the most out of a Rejuv by using a plastic bag. Which incidently had ink on them from a "caution"
    My seats were never dyed, their all original...

    So thats good news that I can just tocuh up the areas. The pics are just the worst areas but there are a several very small ones too. There small, Thank God. George at Leatherique is working with me, to dye just those areas only, he has been priceless......

    Thanks for your input... This was very comforting to read......

    John.
     
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    #14 F1Ace, Jun 15, 2009
    You're welcome.

    But let's qualify my comment a little. The reason I said it's easy to fix is 'cause I assumed
    you had the exact dye from redying your seats. The trick will be in getting an exact match
    if you haven't.

    When I ordered my dye, I believe I sent them a sample, and still, the dye I got back was
    not an exact match that I would just jump into the middle of a panel. I'm not sure that's
    their strength. That's why for an issue like yours I would consider the other guys.

    But don't ignore your local talents. I called a leather repair guy up recently in my area
    and he did such an awesome repair on another car, and it was only like $70, that I would
    suggest that as well.

    I just think that whatever George sends you will need to be tinted this way or that, and
    do you have any extra material to try it on before you go 'live'? These guys who do it
    day in and day out are better at this than us.

    Sorry if this post complicates things, but I know you wanna get it right, so I think you should
    know all this.

    Wes
     
  15. wingfeather

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    #15 wingfeather, Jun 15, 2009
    Remove the ink with a Magic Eraser or WD40. No big deal...
     
  16. Easyrider7467

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    #16 Easyrider7467, Jun 15, 2009


    Thanks Wes,
    I'm considering going to a reputable place to have it professinoally done. I've sent a swatch to George and I will test it on an inconspic spot first... Thank you for your input. I'll keep you posted.


    Wingfeather, I wish if was that easy. Believe me I would want nothing more than it to be. But its "in" the leather not surface stuff. Thanks for your suggestions,I appreciate it. John.
     
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    #17 rsqrd308, Jun 15, 2009
    Isn't that acetone? Geeze that is strong stuff.
     
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    #18 rsqrd308, Jun 15, 2009
    Is it like a tattoo, that much in the leather? If so 'bleaching" and re-dyeing may be the only choice. Can't believe it sunk that deep.
     
  19. Easyrider7467

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    #19 Easyrider7467, Jun 15, 2009
    I know. When I first saw it I thought, OK I'll rub it off... NOOOOOOOOO........

    You cant see it in the photos but its "in" the leather. Never thought this would be the case.

    If it said FERRARI I wouldnt care. LOL

    Yes, Acetone did NUTHIN!!

    BIG Lesson Here: Stick with your original plan/technique.....
     
  20. Fred2

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    #20 Fred2, Jun 16, 2009
    Does leathertique bring back that new leather smell?
     
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    #21 JAYF, Jun 16, 2009
    No-not at all. It has its own citrus-like smell.
     
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    #22 Easyrider7467, Jun 16, 2009
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    Fred,
    I never really paid attention to this. Leatherique is the ONLY product I use on my seats and my interior does smell great, yes like leather too. So maybe it does? Ultimately, I'm very pleased with the product, it does a fantastic job. I recently started removing my seats to clean them and I must say that it makes things much easier. Here is a pic of my interior:
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    #23 F1Ace, Jun 17, 2009
    FYI, that steering wheel is adjustable and can be lowered.
     
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    #24 Easyrider7467, Jun 18, 2009
    Wes,
    Yes I know. I may lower it. I haven't tried yet. How much travel will I see in the downward direction?
     
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    It's been a while, but I think it was an inch or two.
    Add a 1" extender piece and it makes all the difference.
     
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