LeMans winning Ferraris

Jim Spiro owns one that won twice. (At least the chassis did)

 

Bardinon would be the likely suspect, but I don't know enough about his collection or if that was one of his goals.

Wayne? Jarret?

 

It must be Bardinon to which he referred. I don´t know if it was a goal for him to have all the Le Mans winning Ferraris in his stable, but at least he owns/owned a number of them:

1954 375 Plus
1958 250 Testa Rossa
1962 330 TRI/LM
1964 275 P

 

1949 - 166MM n. 0008 - R. M. Lee Collection, Nevada
1954 - 375+ n. 0396 - Mas du Clos Collection (P. Bardinon), France
1958 - 250TR n. 0728 - Mas du Clos Collection (P. Bardinon), France
1960 - 250TR n. 0774 - W. E. Connor, Hong Kong
1961 - 250TRI n. 0794 - P. G. Sachs, Connecticut
1962 - 330TRI/LM n. 0808 - J. Spiro, Louisiana
1963 - 250P n. 0814 - subsequently burned out - "resurrected" with new chassis, etc., L. Chinetti, Connecticut
1964 - 275P n. 0816 - Mas du Clos Collection (P. Bardinon), France
1965 - 250LM n. 5893 - Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum

 

Your friend would be referring to Pierre Bardinon. I've never met Pierre personally, but from what I heard he was not "obsessed" with owning all the Le Mans Ferraris, but I suppose could be classified as "obsessed" with owning the highest quality cars around. Being French, he obviously held the cars that won the 24h of Le Mans in very high esteem, as he did own 4 of them, but of course almost every other collector would own a Le Mans winner if they had the chance. At one point in the 1970s he amassed a Collection of around 40 Ferraris, almost all competition or Formula 1 cars, and raced them regulary on his track in the backyard of his Chateaux whenever he felt the desire........dolce vita.........

-Jarrett

 

PB also had proclivity to put pewter badges on his collection, screwed into the alloy panels. PITA to remove and patch.
He got 0728 thru Dick Merritt and 2 car trade of 0742 and a 196 Dino I can't recall # @ 3AM.
Setton had another amazing collection, but was more F-1 based than LM based. Both collections were extensive, now shadows of former selves. As they all are.
Jarett, there are some corrections to be made here and there on your site. If I have time, I will PM you.

 

At one point I was fortunate enough to have both the 1960 & 1961 winners in my shop for work. Please recheck the serial number on the Sachs car? It has been in 1962 configuration since he acquired it from Bamford. It would be nice to see in Le Mans 61 trim.

 

Bardinon collection is still pretty impressive.

 

Serial Number on the Sachs TR61 is most certainly 0794TR

-Jarrett

 

am i right in understanding that this gentleman has its private circuit?

that must be quite unique, no??

 

http://www.mas-du-clos.com/e/circuit.htm

 

..it's supposed to be a great drive too..

 

Hi,
long time lurker, first time poster.
I had the opportunity to visit the MDC collection with my father when I was younger in the 90'. Amazing place !!!

Here is a list of the Ferraris owned by Pierre Bardinon during the years.
He sold some, for example the well-known TRI-LM (LM winner - for 6,5M USD) and other ones like one of the five 288GTO Evoluzione (sold to buy a F-50 now fitted with slicks and without mirrors). He was quite nostalgic of the 288 (the car was incredibly fast and violent but unfinished and most of the time unable to be on the track, I mean out of order with parts that have to be repaired every day...).

He also owned recently an amazing (and very expensive) vintage racing Bugatti and an Enzo. He aslo had lots of other cars, like for example a beautiful Jaguar E-type Lightweight and Bugs. He also sold his two 1962 250 GTO and kept his 1964 one (a real one, not a conversion...). He also sold the two 410S (the spider and the coupé, I think the coupé has been painted in Ivory white since) and all the TR's wich have not a 12 cylinder engine... He used to say something like : "The four or six cylinders barchettas bothers me, they are like kittens, they say meeooow... The twelve cylinders ones are like tigers, they say rooooaaaar !".

Mas du Clos Collection. All cars that were and are part of Pierre Bardinon collection.
Two of his preferred cars are his Red with blue stripe 250LM and his silver 250 Passo Corto. He made lots of miles on the french roads with the 250LM.

Sports Cars

01. 1950 166MM 0044M (only the engine)
02. 1951 340 America 0116A
03. 1953 166MM/53 0264M
04. 1953 250MM 0344MM
05. 1953 375MM 0368AM
06. 1953 375MM 0376AM
07. 1954 375Plus 0396AM
08. 1954 500 Mondial 0446MD(0556MD)
09. 1955 121LM 0558LM
10. 1955 410S 0594CM
11. 1956 410S 0596CM
12. 1956 860Monza 0602M
13. 1956 860Monza 0604M
14. 1956 290MM 0626
15. 1956 500TR 0638MDTR
16. 1957 335S 0674
17. 1958 250TR58 0728TR
18. 1958 250TR 0742TR
19. 1958 250TR59/60 0746
20. 1960 246S 0778
21. 1960 246S 0784
22. 1962 268SP 0796 (engine only)
23. 1962 268SP 0798
24. 1962 246SP 0806
25. 1962 330TRI/LM 0808
26. 1963 275P 0816
27. 1964 330P 0822
28. 1964 365P 0824
29. 1965 365P2/3 0838
30. 1966 206S 022
31. 1966 206S 026
32. 1966 206S 032
33. 1966 412P 0848
34. 1967 330P4 0860
35. 1968 612 Can Am 0866
36. 1969 312P 0870
37. 1969 212E 0862
38. 1972 312PB 0884
39. 1970 512M 1018

GT Cars

40. 1958 250TdF 0933GT
41. 1961 250SWB 2669GT
42. 1961 250SWB 2937GT
43. 1962 250GTO 3607GT
44. 1963 330LMB 4725SA
45. 1963 250GTO 5095GT
46. 1964 250GTO 5573GT
47. 1964 250LM 5841
48. 1965 250LM 5891
49. 1965 500 Superfast 6049SF
50. 1966 275GTB/C 9007
51. 1981 512BB 21257
52. 1985 288GTO Evol. 70167
53. 1993 456GT ?
54. 1995 F50 103488
55. 1998 550 Maranello 108746
69. 2003 ENZO ?

Formula Cars

56. 1950 166F2 006C
57. 1952 500F2/625F1 0186F
58. 1954 625F1 0540
59. 1964 158F1 0006
60. 1965 1512F1 0009
61. 1966 246 Tasman 0006
62. 1969 312F1 0007
63. 1969 312F1 0019
64. 1970 312B 001
65. 1971 312B2 005
66. 1971 312B2 007
67. 1975 312T2 023
68. 1991 642F1 127

During the seventies, when the journalists asked Enzo Ferrari if the Ferrari factory had a museum, he always replied : "Ask monsieur Bardino' in France, he have the museum".

Just for the story, he bought his 250 Passo Corto for something equal to 12 000 bucks (maybe less). (In the seventies I think, happy days...).

 

750 Monza # 520 M (buy year 1980), 250 GTO # 3869 GT (buy years 80), 250 GTO 64 # 5571 GT (year 80), Dino 246 GT # 1312

This collection

166 F2 chassis n° 006C


375 MM chassis n° 368 AM


375 + chassis n° 394 AM


290 MM chassis n° 626


335 S chassis n° 674


250 TR 58 chassis n° 728 TR


250 GT SWB chassis n° 2937 GT

http://img234.exs.cx/img234/4980/275p8162fe.jpg[/image]
275 P chassis n° 816

[img]http://img234.exs.cx/img234/8164/gto6455739gw.jpg
250 GTO 64 chassis n° 5573 GT


330 P chassis n° 822

[imag]http://img234.exs.cx/img234/1917/330p48600ff.jpg[/img]
330 P4 chassis n ° 860


312 P chassis n° 870


312 B chassis n° 001


312 PB chassis n ° 884


512 BBi chassis n ° 21257


F50 chassis n ° 103488




Enzo chassis n° ?????

 

Thanks for the pics Ludo.
Here are some more :

MDC 250LM (#5891 ?) :
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7504/mdc250lm1ar.jpg
MDC 1964 250 GTO #5573GT :
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5993/mdc64gto0lh.jpg
MDC 275P #0816 :
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1467/mdc275p1gz.jpg
MDC 330P #0822 :
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7660/mdc330p4mf.jpg
MDC 330P4 #0860 :
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8480/mdc330p42wk.jpg

MDC 1964 250 GTO #5573GT & E-Type "lightweight speciale" at "Le Mas du Clos" :
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6712/etypegto648ok.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9646/etypegto64b4qo.jpg


The E-Type is a stradale lightweight built by Jaguar in 1964 "on special order" for Pierre Bardinon. Chassis S890193 ; ZF gearbox, D-type magnesium wheels, Lucas injection. Steel & Alu body. Raced in Hillclimb championship.

The GTO 64 5573GT is an ex. SEFAC Ferrari ; NART : B.Grossman racing.
Raced by : Jean Guichet, Carlo Mario Abate, Lorenzo Bandini, Mikes Parkes, John Surtees, Jo schlesser, Walt Luftman, Pedro Rodriguez, Fernand Tavano, Bob Grossman, Skip Hudson, Lodovico Scarfiotti... (1964 - 1965).

 

minor correction to sicqnus list above. #8, 0446MD(0556MD) is a 735 Sport, not a 500 Mondial

 

the picture is not 250 LM # 5891, this is 250 LM # 5841

 

5841 LM sold to Sheehan 1998

 

5841 was not sold to Sheehan in 1998, but is still owned by Pierre Bardinon


-Jarrett

 

Hi sicqnus,

I see you have been on my website. I always love being given at least a little bit of credit.....

-Jarrett

 

Hi Ludo,

Are you saying that Bardinon owned these cars, purchasing the Monza, and both GTOs in 1980? Because 5571GT was owned by the Gelles brothers in New York USA in 1980, had been there since 1978 and they sold it to Obrist in 1985. So I don't believe that car ever passed through Bardinon's hands. He has had his owned 64' GTO since around 1972. 3869GT was bought by Albert Obrist in march of 1979 and I'm fairly sure that he was the one who sold it to Giorgio Perfetti in 1989. Additionally, I show 0520M going to the Musee del Automobile du Mans in 1980, and from there passing onto Jean Sage in 1984 on its way to several other owners later on. Currently resides with Karl-Friedrich Scheufele in Switzerland. Am interested to hear more thoughts on these cars

-Jarrett

 

exactly, buy = sold, my english is not famous

 

my info is in the book " Ferrari 166 to F50 GT " p 303, probably a error