Leonardo Diagnostic tool Clinic/demonstrartion

Nick- Guess my interest level just zeroed since the only late model Ferrari not on the list is the 575M/Superamerica.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

WOW!!!!

There's gonna be a lot happy techs out there now!!!

 

Sorry ...But a computer, no matter how hyped , will take the place of a "good" tech... lol!
(Key word being good) You can give an average owner one of these, and depending on what the company enables the machine to "do" , will either be stareing at its pretty screen because they dont know what they are looking at , or what it means.... Or will really screw a car up because they try to set a value on there car improperly and really mess things up...
Not saying that an owner is incompetent, or couldnt learn the system...But to really know these (and other) car systems it takes time and experience...
I liked the anology of a dog staring @ a tv....
Im not "unhappy"..hehe
Im just sayin...

 

I'm not impressed, need more real information. Even if you go to the Leonardo site in Europe there is really no list of all the functions it can do with the cars.

I have not seen anything near what the SD's can do. I've asked Nick specific questions about peforming Engine ECU dual bank cycle tests, reset adaption values, reset drive by wire throttles, transmission actuator centering, dash operations and programming, ABS/ASR enabling of components to test and bleed and I'm still waiting.......

You might want to send me one to try out on all the cars we have in the shop routinely and then you'll get a report on how it truely stands up to what we really need to save time and ultimately customer's money.

The YouTube videos only show parameter functions.....need more info

yes....skeptic, but $20k/ plus $1k per year is a huge some of money for a glorified scanner that may do a few extra things like setting PIS....there is much more required to properly service the newer cars. IF it is more, I need to see it in my hot little hands.

I'm still waiting for answers and real situations in diagnositics that guys like me that "diagnose" the problems fully to solve them before just simply replacing parts till the problem may or may not be alleviated.

Ten years ago or so I was one of the first independents to get the SD-2 "legally", then others followed.....There are a couple of other Consultants with great shops (DH, JP you can chime in) here on FChat waiting on my personal assessment, but can't do it without one in my hands......come on Nick, send me one.

 

Hmmm...

Very interesting Dave, because I to am a little on the fence with this. Certainly a "proof of the pudding" test in a realtime, real world shop WOULD make me pull the trigger for this unit tomorrow. In fact I am giving two tech sessions this Saturday in Fort Wayne and had thought about demonstrating my "new Leonardo" scanner, sadly it will be a demonstration of generic and ST and their limitations. With increasing numbers of late models entering my market it becomes a justifiable expense to sell to my potential backers. Plus I feel that we are a little 'pressured' by the Lambo or not sales technique, the whole thing was originally all about coverage of the 3 marques. Please keep me informed.

Regards, Brian Stewart

 

Hi David,

Apologies if we have not answered to your questions sooner, but I don’t spend much time on forums. If in future you should need specific information, please feel free to contact us directly on [email protected] or [email protected] And we will be delighted and do our very best to promptly give you an answer.

The reason why we don’t have a Ferrari & Maserati specific vehicle list on our website is because we feel that the amount of information is so large that we could cause confusion. The other reason is that we give on average a weekly software update to all our clients, so we would need to constantly update the website list too. The final reason (excuse…&#61514 is that Leonardo is not a generic diagnostic tool. For this reason we prefer to directly answer to questions/issues to all our current and future clients.

In our opinion we are in a specialist niche market that needs to be followed up professionally with an interaction between us, as a manufacturer and the specialist that uses Leonardo.

I will try to answer to your questions at my best:

1) performing Engine ECU dual bank cycle tests

As far as we are aware there is no tool that can currently do so. We are looking into it. And there might be the possibility of performing a duel ECU test by using a duel interface system to work with the main Leonardo unit. We will keep you informed on the progress.

2) reset adaption values, reset drive by wire throttles

Yes Leonardo already does it



3) transmission actuator centering

Yes Leonardo already does it


4) dash operations and programming

Yes and also add devices with programming the body computer and Proxi

5) ABS/ASR enabling of components to test and bleed

Yes Leonardo already does it

We would like you to please bear in find that Accinni has been successfully running for the past 21 years. Only 5 months ago we have decided to ‘jump’ onto the Ferrari and Maserati Diagnostic Market. I believe that in such little time we have achieved a goal that many other companies have been trying to do for many years.

We are currently developing the software that will enable Leonardo to re-program the 360 early F1 gearbox to the later version, so you will also be able to set the PIS (plus the rest of the advantages) on the early F1s.

By next year we want Leonardo to be the only Dealer Level Diagnostic Device on the market to give the operator the possibility to re-program the engine management system for performance increase.

As we will be attending the SEMA show in November, if you can make it, it would be our pleasure to meet you there with our products.

If you could e-mail me directly at [email protected] I can send you the current vehicle list with all device application.

Best regards
ACCINNI

 

Augusto
sent you an email

 

Got it thanks Nick, sent you an email back.

 

Who here has bought one?

How do you like it so far.

What has it done for you? Be specific.

Nearly $20K is a gigantic nut to crack and I can't justify having something that expensive collecting dust. I have enough of those already.

I've seen the sales pitch, now I want to know from a real "end user" if it's gonna pay for itself.

Lamborghini?

What other cars can it work on? Aston Martin?

 

We bought one..But have not recived the unit as of yet. It should be here this week. I'll let you know. I have a few cars lined up waiting to test it out on. Should be fun, and interesting, and a bit nerve wracking, cause 20k is a ton of cake if the thing turns out to be a door stop.

 

Recived the unit today. By all accounts so far, it is a great tool. The screen is large and the usage is very easy. I will be plugging into a Ferrari and Maserati hopefully tomorrow to get a better feel of it. I was playing around in "demo" mode with Nick on the other end of the phone today..The 360 inturment cluster function is simply amazing. The info you can get is an excellent source for PPI inspection.

One feature which is really good is the "quick test" where the scanner will check every module in the car with push off a "button" and pull all the codes out in one menu for almost every system in the car. Engine, gear box, airbag, etc.

Yes you can set the PIS, and tell how much clutch life is left etc.

More updates to follow.

 

Keep it coming!

 

Nick- Thanks for the PM. I see the 575M/Superamerica made it except for the retractable roof.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Well, obviously not enough time in the day to "play" around with the new scan tool. I had too many other pressing jobs to take care of today which took up the entire day and then some. Monday morning has been reserved for a Masterai Cambrio Corsa and Ferrari 360f1 clutch jobs. I will be doing complete scans and tests of each car. A 575 will follow along with a 430 shortly there after.

 

Thanks for posting this Tom. I have been strugling with the decision to put the hammer down on this, but your input may well confirm the usefullness for my shop. Await the Lambo add on too.

I would have got it earlier but there was never an option to include the generic OBD/EOBD which I wanted.

Cheers, Eurocardoc

 

Speaking with Nick, he has pretty much told Accini to include generic OBD, which will be a free update once that portion is finished up by Accini. Lambo Softwear will be beta tested by myself and the few others who have bought the machine early on. The first version of that softwear should be available soon according to Nick.

Today I am staying home to catch up on house work, and hopefully spend some quality time in front of the T.V. with a case of beer in a cooler beside me...

 

We received our unit while Nick was at SEMA. Used it on a 575 during that time. Even though it was hectic for Nick and the Leonardo crew while in Vegas they followed up with me daily to take care of some updates that were needed.
Nick and the ACCINIS did not leave me hanging.
Thank you guys

Karl

 

Ok..Went throught a complete scan of the Maserati yesterday. Did all the aucuations for the gear box systems, and engine. The live data is very good although some trouble codes come up in Itailian. Not a big hurdle to over come. Checked the clutch wear showed it was at 15%.

However, for Maserati, there is no intrument cluster scanning ability, like for the 360, and I couldn't get into the ABS/traction control system either. I haven't spoke to Nick about this yet, but I'm sure and update will be comming. Aig bag system was wide open for diagnostics which is very good news.

The Quick test function did not work on this car either..But again the thing is still in the process of being updated..of which there is already a new one available for down load.

Will be replacing the clutch today, will let you guys know how the PIS set-up goes and how good the self learing function operates.

360 to follow.

 

Real time, real world updates from a longtime shop, hope Nick gives you a deal Tom!

Thanks for posting.

Brian

 

OK..Clutch is installed. Went through the bleeding procedure with the scan tool..It worked very well. Also went through the self learn function where it runs the trans system through all its gears and actuates the release bearing etc. Kinda cool. Road test to follow.