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Lets build a 348 race car

Discussion in '348/355' started by Racing-Baker, Jun 8, 2016.

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  1. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 19, 2001
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    The Bad Guy
    Light weight 18" inch racing wheels. As wide as you can get to fit.
    355 racing brakes all the way around
    Race shocks
    Race springs
    Stiffer anti-sway bars, front and rear
    Lexan front, side, and rear windows
    Interior completely gutted
    Racing roll cage
    Stand alone ECU
    New engine wiring loom
    Individual throttle bodies
    Map sensor
    355 6speed gear box, shift shaft, and complete gear selector assembly
    Customs exhaust headers, with the secondaries routed over the half shafts. (This is needed to clear the 6th gear in the 355 gearbox)
    Racing exhaust
    Test pipes or high flow metal core catalytic converters
    4 hole fuel injectors
    Coil on plugs all the way around
    Wideband O2 sensors
    Knock sensor
    Cylinder head intake valves increased to a minimum of 33mm intake, and 28mm exhaust. The valve stems can get reduced in thickness, reduced weight also.
    Some port work to the heads to increase flow and increase velocity.
    Better valve springs, shim under bucket followers
    Rev limit raised to 8500-9000rpm
    Reprofiled cam shafts
    Compression ratio raised to at least 11:1
    Racing fuel cell
    Front splitter and dive planes on the sides of the leading edge of the front bumper
    Rear wing
    Under tray and rear diffuser
    Fire suppression system
    Fuel and electrical kill switches
    Light weight racing seat and 5 point seatbelt harness
     
  2. Racing-Baker

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    Owkay! That's a complete list :p
    Most things i can find myself in but there are some things that are not alouwed:
    -front plexi window
    -6pots brakes (550 Maranello)
    -carbon brakes
    -titianium things
    -355 gearbox
    Generaly all things need to be period correct to a maximum of 1990.
    Carbon seats are a bit pricy, for that 2kg i'll search elsewhere
    Best way is to start with all the basic stuff like chassis etc and then later on the engine i think. I do have a complete spare block with broken heads (timingbelt snaped while driving). Maybe i can tune that one during the racing season and put in the next year.
    Not that i'm not ambitious but we have to be some kind of realistic, i think i can't batle for podium places, not in the first year :D
     
  3. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    That should have read.... 355MM racing brakes.
     
  4. SoCal1

    SoCal1 F1 Veteran
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    No brake changes allowed?

    Stock brakes re piston and valve them no one will ever know

    :)
     
  5. Racing-Baker

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    Brakes may be changed but no carbon. (Not period correct?)
    And nothing more then 4pots.
    I have found a AP racing set front and rear, complete :)
    -excited-
     
  6. KMR968Turbo

    KMR968Turbo Formula 3

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    Just a question, a lot of times it can be cheaper to buy a race car instead of building one. Unless you just get a thrill out of building things, wouldn't you be better off buying a 355 Challenge or 360 Challenge?
     
  7. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    If budget in the future permits, dry carbon fiber doors, radiator intakes in doors, hood, front and rear bumper, front fenders, and side mirrors (if used).
     
  8. ///Mike

    ///Mike F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2003
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    Not period correct and unnecessary. Avoid the rotating and unsprung weight gain and save your cash for things that will demonstrably improve lap times and/or reliability.
     
  9. ///Mike

    ///Mike F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2003
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    Excellent point, assuming that you're not buying someone else's under-maintained, under-developed race car which then requires stripping and starting over from scratch. Buying a used race car can be a huge savings or a money pit, and it's usually tough to determine in advance which one unless you have a lot of experience or are very well advised.
     
  10. Racing-Baker

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    I do like making things instead of just buying them. Also there aren't alot of racing series here where you can enter a 355 or a 360.r Since my job is selling classic cars i needed a classic car (25+years) so there was my 348 that just stood there...



    To late! I have a AP racing set. 4pots, bought it cheap so no harm done!
    Not sure about the weightgain or loss. We'll find out :)
     
  11. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Will the rules allow you to run rotors that have light weight hats? That is one way to get rid of rotor mass. Either way the bigger brakes will definitely help more than hinder. No sense having a car that goes fast but has a hard time stopping.
     
  12. Racing-Baker

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    #39 Racing-Baker, Jun 27, 2016
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  14. Racing-Baker

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    This is how far i got after 3 afternoons.
    Engine is out.
    I would like to get the engine from the frame soon but this seems a big task(?)
    The bolts of the exhaust headers seem to be non EU sized.
    Socket 12 is to small, 13 to big :( Grrrr
     
  15. Racing-Baker

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  16. NeuroBeaker

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    It always looks so alarmingly dramatic whenever the engine is dropped out of a 348. :)

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  17. Racing-Baker

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  18. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Coming along nicely.
     
  19. Wade

    Wade Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Any updates?
     
  20. SoCal1

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    Yeah ----Whats the deal here ? :)
     
  21. cf355

    cf355 F1 Rookie

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    was going well ....for a while :)

    (man there is a lot of rust on that powertrain......possible flood car??? ...or driven in the winter salt?)
     
  22. fdekeu

    fdekeu Formula Junior
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    Enzo is starting up a Company
    I guess he is too busy at the moment
    Patience
     
  23. yvesolution

    yvesolution Karting

    Apr 26, 2010
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    Great project you have there Enzo!!

    I read somewhere that a former belgian race car driver was given? a heavily modified 348 as a street car, I can't remember his name... probably someone remembers, that one could be an inspiration for you?

    formulagt from Munich have some go fast parts for the 348...

    all the best

    Yves
     
  24. yvesolution

    yvesolution Karting

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    How do you progress with your project during winter?
     

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