Yep...another rant This thead is honestly not about any one person in particular, that said: I, along with most owners, feel that one of the joys of Ferrari ownership is sharing the Ferrari experience with others. The sound, feel, handling and sheer joy of driving a Ferrari is truly an experience that everyone should experience while doing time on this planet. Most of us give people rides, but some of us go one step further and actually allow others to drive their cars. I'm one of those people. What I appreciate most is when someone is respectful of my car. They get in carefully, tell me to advise them if I'm uncomfortable with anything they're doing and then they take it mellow and treat the car as if it were a precious art piece. As we drive, they repeatedly ask if they're doing okay and they watch the road and how comfortable I seem to be. These are the people who I'd gladly let drive my car again. They are considerate and thoughtful people. But then there's the "other" drivers, guys who think they are talented race-car drivers. These jerks hop in a car with a false sense of entitlement: they slam the gears, floor the gas and drive the car like it's their b!tch. On many occassion I've had to ask these drivers to slow down, take it easy or even exaggerate how there's an intense presence of cops in the area. Most of the time these guys back-down, apologize and then take it easy. But then there are the true jerks...these guys basically ignore your request and the fact that you're uncomfortable with their driving; they continue to push it. I hate these people and detest their arrogance. If an owner asks you to take it easy, you darn well should apologize and respect their wishes....even if you are a seasoned race-car driver who's sprayed champaign on the podium with the best of 'em....after all, it's not your car. The only person who has the right to beat & push their car is the owner. I recently heard of a guy who let a friend drive his car. The guest driver was pushing it around corners and really opening it up hard. Several times the owner requested that he take it easy, but his request fell on deaf ears. Then it happened; the driver took a turn too fast, lost control and crashed the car. So F-in wrong it makes me sick. The best this guy can hope for is a good repair...and even then the repair will make the car a "story-car" when he goes to sell it. If you are fortunate enough to be allowed to drive another persons car, do so with extreme consideration and respect for both car and owner. A quick glance at the owner from time to time or asking if they're comfortable is not only considerate but proper form. You'd think this is obvious, but time and again I've regretted letting people drive my car....and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Thats ridiculous. Theres very few people I'd let drive my car. I can't believe people would be that rude about it. If I were to drive someones car (especially an exotic etc) I'd be more inclined to drive excessively slow, rather than drive aggresively. Honestly I'd be pretty freakin nervous if I drove a ferrari, I don't think I'd be capable of anything more than a leisurely drive.
The first time I drove a friend's f355 spyder, I was told I was driving it like a grandma. Of course, they also had to tell me that we weren't leaving the place we were at unless I drove. When asked why I didn't want to drive it, I replied because I couldn't afford to break it yet.
interesting comments...i've never had a problem; in fact, usually just the opposite - i have to prompt people to rev it up & open it up a bit(and that's only in a 328). Girls/women are the most interesting, as most have -never- 'pounded it' (car-wise ), and it's fun to watch their eyes bug out a bit... Most intuitive 'guest drivers' have been women, too. Have had a couple that were just naturals, much better than me. I suppose it's part luck, part expectation settings, part testosterone...
I had a buddy let me drive his E46 M3 (no ferrari but still a fun car) And he actually Asked me "what are you driving so slow for?" I then proceeded to speed up only a little bit, he again asked why are you driving so slow to which i responded.. Its not my car, he looked at me and laughed and said give her hell, so I did but still kept it on the down side. But yes I have heard horror stories about people wrecking cars that are not their own and idiots like that piss me off to know end. People have lost respect for others property and that is truly sad.
Because of this, I hope you don't see how the techs at the dealership drive your car after they service it.. I would never get hard on someone else's car, especially and exotic. I'd be grateful, but also extremely nervous being behind the wheel of a Ferrari.
Good post. By far I have had more hacks drive my cars than anyone I would truly trust. Most of these yayhoos wanna show you they can outdrive Mario. But this 308 is a hard car to learn. Its not a car someone who never drove one could drive very well at first, IMHO. Its the type of car you let a noob drive the first time out on a desolate straight road for a few miles. Then you tell them to pull over and take your car back. Let them learn just like you did, and when you feel they know what the hell they are doing, then let em drive like they want. WITHIN REASON! Its MY car, and I will decide who, and how its driven.
In all the years I have worked on other peoples cars, I have never harmed one, or even attempted. Sure, I have mashed pedals to the floor, even ran them up to 70-80, maybe a bit more. But truthfully, in the times I have it was really only to see how the car drove, with its smile potential only a secondary thing. I always took pride in giving someones car back to them equal to, or better than I recieved it. Saddly, I cant say very many have offered me the same token.
Why on earth would you let anyone else drive your car for fun? Would you let someone else ride your wife? I'm perfectly happy and willing to give rides to anyone, but letting them drive, especially someone who has never driven a Ferrari before, is a no-no.
Wow...didn't I just post this like 10 minutes ago? That's because you have something that is becoming a rare quality: CLASS! Let me know when you're in L.A. Again, an issue of your having class I've had that experience too....people who drive it super-mellow and I have to encourage to push it. Again, these are just people being considerate, thoughtful and respectful. Yeah, they may be nervous....but I've had "never driven a Ferrari before" drivers get in and hammer away at it. And yes, most the time these guys are trying to impress me. What they fail to realize is that they're just p!ss!ng me off and will never drive my car again. I'm happy to say that 85% of my experiences have been good...but those 15% that aren't have left a bitter taste in my mouth.
the other day my wife, out of the blue, said she'd like to drive the car. i told her when i start using her stove and washing machine she can drive my car. ;-)
Dude....I'm sure you didn't mean it, but there is an unspoken rule on the internet about making comments about someone's wife. Mounting the mistress, banging the dog....put some creativity in it, but never the wife. I know you didn't mean it personally.... I can understand your hesitation....but letting someone who respects your car and is qualified to drive it gives a huge feeling of gift and generousity. Most the guys at our local gatherings would let other guys drive their car (and I've driven several others guys cars too)...some even swap cars for drives. It works fine when others are considerate, but yes, there are people who would never let anyone else drive their car. To each their own. Honesty, I just wanted to post this thread to open the eyes of people who don't respect others cars.
Maybe it is a maturing process or having trust in in your friends...who knows With my 456GT and 550, I barely let my wife drive never mind a friend or associated. With my 360 F1, I have so much fun I'm almost as happy in the #2 seat as I am driving. See the smiles on my friends face is worth the admission alone. MB Side note: After an hour behind the wheel of my 360, my buddy drove home to La Jolla and bought a 360 as well.
I have let another fcar owner drive my 348 and he was very respectable about making me feel comfortable . He returned the favor by letting me drive his new (to him) 71 daytona, to say the least I was very nervous. I drove like someones grandmother as I was sure every deer in NY was waiting to jump out in front of me just around the corner. After a while I asked him to show we what the car could do, and I have a real treat seeing what an older fcar could do
Hmmmm. Thats making quite a jump. I mean, you let people go in your fridge, use your pool table, soak in your hot tub, use your bathroom, and we all on occasion let people drive our car. The spouse, on the other hand, is generally not something people "loan out". And if you found your spouse getting "used" in that term, I think most would feel simular if someone had just stolen thier Ferrari and raced it all afternoon on a track and brought it back "used". On the other hand, your Ferrari has no way to speak on its behalf nor any way to resist. One would then hope the spouse would both verbally and physically put up some kind of resistance to being "used". However, If you are into loaning out your wife, thats another story. Whats she look like
i'm in the camp that would be very nervous indeed about letting others drive my cars. i don't mind giving rides, but i'm a granny driver, so it won't be much fun! i let family members drive whenever they want, but so far they haven't been keen on jumping in and driving off. john
Where do I fall in this equasion? Didn't know red-lining your Ferrari in 3 gears was bad, isn't that what they are for? At least I stopped before 4,5, and 6.
A graduating surgery resident invited me for a ride in his brand spankin new dream car customized Mustang Cobra w/ many upgrades from stock options. We went for the high speed ride & he pulled over & asked me to drive. I refused but when he said this may be the only time I get to drive a car like this, I took the seat. All went well in this rocket until I went to park in the doctors garage & scraped the rim on a curb. He blew off the damage but Ive never driven anyones car since. Only my mechanic drives my Ferrari.
Buy him a new wheel & tire, then forget it. Better to do this than to have it hangin' over you year after year.
I have only let one other person drive my Dino, but he is a fellow Ferrari owner and he also let me drive his, kinda compairing the differences in feel and all that. This is not the rule though. I was told by someone once that.."letting someone drive your Ferrari is like letting them kiss your girlfriend." Kind of a funny saying but not too far from the truth? Cheers! DT
I've let three or four people drive the Dino. Two were experienced and careful drivers (both Fchatters) who respected the car. One drove like a maniac, scared the crap out of me in my own car. He's not getting invited back for another drive in anything I own, ever. And the last pushed it hard, then realized he was, and backed off, commenting that my car was much quicker than his Dino, which resulted in his pace. DM
Have any of you denied individuals from driving yours? I know I wouldn't ever have the balls to ask to drive someone's, but do any of you have a standard line or something? Does insurance factor into your decision at all?
Riders...welcome. Drivers...only two other persons besides myself and those maintaining it have driven my 330 during my ownership. Driving's an invitation rarely if ever given...and if given and ignored, will not be extended again.