Lewis Hamilton in the recording studio...

Why do some feel the need to 'fix ie manipulate' ones truthfull opinion/post, please stop.

 

His drummer looks like a gopher.

 

I would say the same thing no matter who it was in the recording studio. In my opinion, while still a racing driver, one's attention should be on racing. No athelet ever got better in the recording studio. Ham didn't have the best year in 2011. He should be trying to figure out how to get back to the form that drove Alonso up a wall and won him a championship.

If Seb, or anyone else, came out with an album, I'd be calling for him/them to get their focus back where it should be also.


Mark

 

Fair enough, and good for you!

I do think there's still a lot more "negativity" about it due it being LH rather than anyone else though......

As for "focussing on racing", what's he meant to do? - The first test isn't until February and I doubt if even the sim is completely upgraded to the specs of the new car yet. Even then I believe simulator time is pretty strictly regulated by the RRA - It's not like he can sit in the thing all day everyday even if he wanted to.

Some of 'em do marathons etc (Jenson, Mark and a few others) - Is that taking away their focus? Others are big into radio control "toys" - Is that bad too?

Good luck to the guy I say! He's not out hooning around in night clubs etc. Let him play at being a musician. No harm there IMO.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Is he gay?

http://www.gq.com/style/wear-it-now/201201/lewis-hamilton-interview-formula-1-champion-gq-january-2012

 

Well that picture is gay imho. The catwalk is calling his name I guess?

 

With comments like this ^^^^^, yes, the animosity is because he is black. Believe me being a motorsport enthusiast of colour is like being a surfer in Alaska...but some of us have developed a thick skin and endure our passions regardless of the simple mindedness of others. In time he will get over it, and as for going into the recording studio, I believe it is good for every young person to discover themselves in various aspects of life...it helps in rounding you out as an individual and will remain with him long after the fan-fare and publicity is a thing of the past. Go for it Lewis.

 

There's some great surfing in Alaska

Seriously though, "wow!" was my initial reaction to the above. I'm not sure what else to say right now.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Hey have you ever met me, do you know me personaly of do you just pull the race card out when it suits YOUR racist mentality? Grow up.

 

Ian,


As you can see, I have been on FChat for a number of years (I lurked from its inception), and have seen the F1 section evolve without saying too much. I have loved F1 from childhood and have watched almost every race I can find on film and have not missed watching a GP since 2003 (I'm on a roll!). I have seen drivers criticized and chastised by the media on both shores and others heralded as the next great thing only for them to end up bitter and watching from the sideline, so F1 dynamics is not foreign to me.

The criticism that is accorded to Hamilton is not always without basis...but it often overshoots the bounds in ways that have seldom been seen. Its okay to dislike a driver (plenty of people hate[d] MS), but the hatred that is accorded him is delivered with a passion that I am well familiar with, because I have been on the receiving end of it. Needless to say I have long since stopped attending Nascar races (it isn't worth it) and only attend road-racing events where the crowds are more mixed...besides I am a shy person and I reserve my thick skin for situations and events that really matter. LH in F1 seems to have stirred something that was not always evident (except for the "Asian driver" comments) because there was nobody like him before...its hard for someone in his situation and as young as he is to deal with stuff like that so when I feel too critical of him, I empathize with him. Character-building stuff this.

JV was also criticized somewhat for going into the studio and for having yellow hair, but it was more like "Ha ha look at JV, he might suck" but with LH its more like "Look at him in a magazine, he must be gay..."WTH?

 

I was referring to the comment above yours. My apologies...it took too long to write and you popped up.

And to be honest...The Race Card Accusation thing has to be the best trump card ever invented! It means no one can ever properly point out when there is racism and when there isnt! I should give it a name...like the "Ace of Race Card" card. I don't have a racist mentality...I'm more of a culture-snob kinda guy...but I'm in recovery.

 

How do you explain the hatred spewed at Massa....that cannot be racism. Same goes for Ralph Schumacher; he was called gay from the day I joined Fchat until he retired. No one made a single racial comment. Many don't like Lewis because he's arrogant and likes to believe he's the next Senna. In fact, I think he's been treated far better than I would have expected of the first black man in F1. Has anyone held him back?

Mark

 

I have always believed that the hatred towards Massa has to do with the amazing number of people who deem him incompetent, yet he is in one of the top drives in F1. I am always mystified as to how Massa is capable of the highest highs and the lowest lows, but I sense a lot of people who feel his seat in Ferrari is unjustified and there is some argument in favour of that. I think it is wrong to over-criticize Massa because to me the greatest thing he did in his career was to be able to come back from an early erratic driving style to winning GPs. However, his brilliance is at question no doubt, especially when compared to his current team mate. As for Ralf, you might remember that his path to F1 was amazingly smooth surrounding his brother's incredibly bright shining performances. People were like, "What if he is as good as his brother?"...an attitude to me that is as dangerous as racism, because that is how undesirable governments are kept alive...once he proved mediocre, he was an easy target and one thing F1 fans hate is any driver that has an underserved ride.

You think Lewis is arrogant. Have you ever met a racing driver? I have. Arrogance is a requirement on the CV. Some are not always apparently arrogant, but trust me you need a vicious mentality to get to the top. Same applies to highly competetive sportsmen/women. If anything I think he has become "obnoxious" long after people were accusing him of it. How do you think the first black driver ought to have been treated?

 

I don't want to provoke an argument, but you can attribute much of the hatred towards other as being for various reasons, but for Lewis its must be because of the color of his skin. That's looking at things through tinted glasses.

Reread what I posted, I did not say he should be treated any different because of the color of his skin; he should be treated like every other person. I said I thought he was treated better than I expected. I thought we'd be hearing more racial comments from fans (so far I only know of the Spain incident), and/or more comments from former drivers/announcers/etc.

Yes, I think Lewis is arrogant. As an athlete who competed at very high levels, yes I know some arrogance is necessary. I have known racing drivers as well. I use to like Lewis, but his attitude as of late has been a real turn off. He likes to pretend he's the second coming and when he fails it's everyone else's fault. That's the turn off. Get off the racial kick, because when anyone here has made any comments even close to racism, this board has done a wonderful job of policing them.

Mark

 

I actually agree with you Mark, as to his "obnoxious" behaviour. He was accused of this in his freshman year, and that was not for the behaviour that I have recently noticed from him...but it was for his performance and his tenacity against the rest of the field. In his interviews back then he was always gushing and "awfully glad to be here"...very different from today. That early criticism I couldn't fathom. I don't know how one can "pretend to be the second coming", for me that is a speculative statement with no foundation. I am critical of his open hero worship of Senna, because I believe as a driver you should be a bit reserved as to whom you really admire...its better for the PR and for all the rabid fans who will inevitably yell back, "You will never be like him!"

My comments are not to suggest that he is above reproach because of his race. And the policing on this board is above criticism, I'm sure. But to constantly hush those who point out racism and say it ain't so is very disingenous. I don't walk around with a chip on my shoulder, because I grew up in an environment that wasnt rife with that kind of thing, I became exposed at a later age...so its not like I'm some militant kinda guy....but I also dont wear rose-colored glasses and put my head in the sand....but I respect your views...and I'm not calling you racist BTW.

 

By the way, I don't think its wrong to have a dialogue about race, even when it comes to racing and sports...I believe if people were more open about these kinda things everyone would be better off...in the west, people of colour have to overcome issues that are ages old to get to where they are, and this is not always apparent to people who are not from that background. They say things like, "Stuff is hard for us too, why can't you just man up and suffer like the rest of us do" etc etc which is partly true, but mostly mis-guided. I hate it when people play the race-card and it happens too often for comfort...but I'll be damned that I will ignore racism when I see it. I still stand by my statement, and I could also say something about the things people (including journos) say about Karthikeyan and Yuji Ide etc etc, but I will leave that right now for someone else. The world isn't perfect, but doesn't mean we can't keep trying.

 

Do you actually think before you post such nonsense, apparently not.

Also you were the FIRST and only person to bring racism into this discussion by accusing me of being racist because I posted a comment that did not adhere to your outlook and then with your ignorant comment "The Race Card Accusation thing has to be the best trump card ever invented!"

Maybe it is best that you keep 'lurking' until you are mature enough to enjoy/respect the differences of opinions that every one else here enjoys without inventing a 'nonexistent' implication.

Have a great weekend ok,
tex

Unsubscribed.

 

Mine was the comment above his, and might I say, "Hey have you ever met me, do you know me personaly of do you just pull the race card out when it suits YOUR racist mentality? Grow up."

 

Manchester City striker Mario Bolatelli has also developed interest to be a DJ. He's planning to learn actually pursue it. Following Hamilton's steps...both on and off their job/track

 

Laughable ...

Pete

 

What's the big deal. It's the off season for pete's sake, cut the guy a break. It's not like they can even test..

 

It would be interesting to know why he does it.

a) For the fun of it, then it wouldn't be our business to criticize how he likes to spend his free time. And singing is much better than injuring himself riding bicylces (Webber) or doing rallies (Kubica)!

b) He wants to start a music career, which unfortunately is not unlikely given that his celebrity-experienced manager has announced that he wants to make Lewis a star in the US. Then he better find someone who kicks him (and his manager!) in his rear end rather quickly, or this won't end well.



btw, the only driver with some credibility when it comes to recording music would be Sutil, who skipped his training as a professional pianist for driving in F1!

 

Wow. LH has been treated with kid gloves on this board compared to FA, and others. FA's nationality, facial hair, and race have been explicitly condemned by countless members of Fchat, and any slip of FA has been blown into biblical proportions.

LH, on the other hand, has been relatively lightly treated for his unethical driving, his racial victimization "It's because I am black!", his infinite (even for an F1 driver) arrogance, and his dangerous performances.

And now you want to set up LH as a victim of racial bias, on Fchat, and in reality? It appears that you haven't been lurking very carefully. Not only FA, but Massa, MS, Barrichello, and others have been the object of far worse abuse than LH. And they are not black.

It is sad when bias is used to present somebody as a victim when they don't deserve such status. It is sad that your own bias has blinded you to the treatment others were receiving, and continue to receive. This is Fchat.

 

I can't believe no one has mentioned Nicole. She's the one that got the ball rolling.

 

Yes, JV did make an acoustic guitar and song album 2 years ago...I don't know how many alubms he sold, but lets say he's definitely not Top 10 on Itunes..

+1 We all do stupid things when we were 25 years old on our spare time.